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Cub PTO water pump

Postby spaceghost » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:53 am

Does anyone have information on how to set up a water pump to PTO, what kind to use, mounting, all that kind of stuff

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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby Eugene » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:14 am

What are you trying to accomplish? There are numerous water pumps available from PTO driven, 12 volt and 120 volt pumps.

Northern Tool & Equipment has a number of pages with different type pumps.

I have a reinforced cement low water crossing to cut, to install a new culvert. Plan is to move one of the smaller generator sets and the shop vac or sump pump to the work site to cool the saw blade and wash away cutting debris.
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby spaceghost » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:24 am

I have a cabin in Maine on 40 acres, no power, I want to put a plastin 30 gallon barrel on the back on the cub, drive down to the stream use the cub PTO to run a pump to fill the barrel with water from the creek,
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby tmays » Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:10 am

Bob, I would use a dedicated pump at the creek. One powered by little B&S. Unless you're just bound and determined to do it with the cub. We can be hardheaded that way, can't we? :-).
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby t jackson » Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:46 am

barnes water pump tm;s web site

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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby Stanton » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:00 am

FYI: Water weighs 8.333 lbs/gallon. A 30 gallon barrel will have 250 lbs of it in addition to the barrel and framework weight.
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:24 am

tmays wrote:Bob, I would use a dedicated pump at the creek. One powered by little B&S. Unless you're just bound and determined to do it with the cub. We can be hardheaded that way, can't we? :-).

He doesn't live there. The pump would "walk away" during his absence.
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby Eugene » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:47 am

Depends on how many 30 gallon barrels you want to fill in a day.

Thinking I would go with one of the 12 volt DC pumps. Some can pump 4 gallons a minute and cost less than $100-.

I use 5 gallon pails/buckets to dip water from the creek to fill the tank on my herbicide sprayer. Just guessing, I can get 15 gallons of creek water into the sprayer tank in less than 5 minutes.
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby spaceghost » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:26 pm

:headbang me hard headed? I have a fast hitch on the cub, I have a FH point with cross bars and the barrel fits in nicely, I have a real 5 foot FH york rake that has to be close to two hundred pounds and that is no trouble for the cub.
would like to have as little hardware as possible, I have all kinds of cub parts , I have pto splines and drive shafts for a cub. would like it to be one unit, hook up the FH point the barrel is on push in the pump and go. is this an impossible dream, does not sound any more complicated to me than the other things that we build for cub? I am just not sure how to go about it and cub is 6 volt and the creak road is not the best, fine for cub but would not want to drive my truck down there
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:07 pm

Bob,

How many times a day will you be filling the barrel? I'm with Eugene, 12VDC pump and a 12V battery or power pack. Cheap and compact.
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby Eugene » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:17 pm

Research PTO roller pumps. Some will work in either PTO shaft rotation. You will need a splined adapter to convert from Cub to standard PTO.

I just looked up one. 16.5 gallons per minute. So would take a bit under 2 minutes to fill a 30 gallon drum.
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby RogerW » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:56 pm

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As far as carrying a 30 gal. barrel of water, it should be no problem unless he has a steep hill to go up I used to use a 55 gal barrel on my cub, filled from my sump pump, to water flowers and my garden.

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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby outdoors4evr » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:04 am

If dedicated to PTO power, I would mount the pump on the tongue of a small yard trailer and run the pump with an angle drive and V-belt.
The barrel can sit in the trailer.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/h ... _vc=-10005

This is less complicated.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... _200418133

This is a bit cheaper, but will probably only fill the barrel a few times on a deep cycle battery. (battery not included)
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... _4866_4866

If I had a generator for the property already, I'd probably use this.
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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby Matt Kirsch » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:55 pm

You actually may be better served looking at ENGINE DRIVEN pumps, rather than PTO pumps.

These would be better suited to the Cub PTO, which runs at engine speed in engine direction.

You then simply need to adapt the Cub PTO shaft to the engine pump's shaft, and fabricate a mounting bracket to hang the pump from.

Maybe you could get away with simply putting a Cub-to-540 spline adapter inside a standard 540/1000 type PTO roller pump, and running it backwards? I dunno. That would be the easiest solution, though.

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Re: Cub PTO water pump

Postby spaceghost » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:46 pm

thanks for all the info, I am going to try to build the whole thing on a platform on the FH point,
Maybe it will work we will see, I will keep you apprised of the progress
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