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1953 Farmall Cub
1976 JD 650 compact - Location: McKinney TX
light fuse..etc.
I got my 1953 Cub about 90% restored (I thought) about 2 months ago. When I turned on the headlights the 20amp fuse blew. This is about the time I realized the gas tank needs cleaning and sealing, plan is to use RedKote, good time to change the fuse. Got the hood/tank off and set aside and replaced the fuse. Remember the headlights are off and on the hood. No matter where the switch is, both sides of the fuse are hot? I can't imagine needing the lights bad enough to do this again. If I need to ask a question here it would be "what the"?
Gas tank. This is gonna be good............
There is a screwdriver stuck under the baffle, I can see the blade and it won't move, guess it will get the RedKote treatment as well? For you most knowledgeable Cub buffs, is this where the tool box is located, if so where are the other wrenches? Can I at least get a grin out of that one.
Thank YOU for the help past and future................ John
Gas tank. This is gonna be good............
There is a screwdriver stuck under the baffle, I can see the blade and it won't move, guess it will get the RedKote treatment as well? For you most knowledgeable Cub buffs, is this where the tool box is located, if so where are the other wrenches? Can I at least get a grin out of that one.
Thank YOU for the help past and future................ John
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Re: light fuse..etc.
I'd do my best to get the screwdriver out. Left in, it will provide more opportunities for the RedKote to not get a complete seal.
You probably have some wires improperly connected to the light switch. Recheck according to this diagram:
You probably have some wires improperly connected to the light switch. Recheck according to this diagram:
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1976 JD 650 compact - Location: McKinney TX
Re: light fuse..etc.
fuse should not be hot on both sides should it? The 0 on the switch stand for OFF?
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Re: light fuse..etc.
Hot as in temperature, No.johntexas wrote:fuse should not be hot on both sides should it? The 0 on the switch stand for OFF?
If by hot you mean voltage, then yes, both sides of a fuse will be hot. In the wiring diagram Jim provided, the L terminal on the voltage regulator is battery voltage. A wiring trace will show battery voltage from the L terminal, through the fuse, up to the light switch. Even with the light switch in the off position.
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: light fuse..etc.
While you have it where you can get to it, auto parts stores carry small circuit breakers that will clip into the fuse holder if it is the one on the back of the light switch. fuse holder mounted in the dash though has to have the standard SFE 20 fuse.
storing your tools in the gas tank reduces the chances of loosing them. Unfortunately you have to turn it upside down and shake it to get them out. As close to a grin as I can handle today.
storing your tools in the gas tank reduces the chances of loosing them. Unfortunately you have to turn it upside down and shake it to get them out. As close to a grin as I can handle today.
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you are part of the problem!!!
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1953 Farmall Cub
1976 JD 650 compact - Location: McKinney TX
Re: light fuse..etc.
Thanks but if I can figure out why it blew I would hope that should do. The back light is not hooked up could that cause it to blow? I now have a diagram but too blurrrrry to read. I'll wade though.
Like to never got the screwdriver and lug nut out from behind the baffle, but did.....now Miller time
Like to never got the screwdriver and lug nut out from behind the baffle, but did.....now Miller time
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Re: light fuse..etc.
Wiring diagrams are provided in the Maintenance and Operator's manuals.
Fuse blown, short some place. The short is after the fuse. Disconnected lamp, not the problem. Could be a bad appliance or the switch, wire insulation worn, end of disconnected wire touching metal, or ????.
Fuse blown, short some place. The short is after the fuse. Disconnected lamp, not the problem. Could be a bad appliance or the switch, wire insulation worn, end of disconnected wire touching metal, or ????.
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: light fuse..etc.
Go here to look at the diagram. On this page you can click it to make it bigger.
http://www.atis.net/CubFAQ/cub_faq_2.html#q3
http://www.atis.net/CubFAQ/cub_faq_2.html#q3
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Re: light fuse..etc.
Aha moment
Thanks Jim
Thanks Jim
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Re: light fuse..etc.
Remember, you're dealing with a 6-volt - POSITIVE ground system. So, everything is "hot" when you check it back to the negative terminal on the battery, as you would in a 12-volt - NEGATIVE ground system. Just something to keep in mind....
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1953 Farmall Cub
1976 JD 650 compact - Location: McKinney TX
Re: light fuse..etc.
GREAT...learning more and more and more and more
I have a 12 volt system
The plot thickens
I don't have the headlights on her but both sides of fuse has power plus juice to headlight wires and fuse not blown ? Go figure
I have a 12 volt system
The plot thickens
I don't have the headlights on her but both sides of fuse has power plus juice to headlight wires and fuse not blown ? Go figure
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Re: light fuse..etc.
Any fuse that is not blown should show the same voltage on both sides of the fuse.
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Re: light fuse..etc.
It's not clear from your first post, so I am going to ask what seems to be a stupid question. You blew the fuse when the hood was mounted and the lights wired up, correct? If you blew it then, it must be a short in either the headlight wire or internal to the headlamps themselves. I blew a fuse on Merlin one time after reassembling the hood to the dash because the resistor that gives the "dim" lights was touching the bottom of the gas tank. My resistor needed replacing because it uncoiled a bit and was allowed to touch the tank.
As others have said, the fuse holder should be hot on both sides of the fuse at all times. It is the infeed to the rest of the electrical system...coil, lights, but NOT the starter)
Mike
As others have said, the fuse holder should be hot on both sides of the fuse at all times. It is the infeed to the rest of the electrical system...coil, lights, but NOT the starter)
Mike
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1953 Farmall Cub
1976 JD 650 compact - Location: McKinney TX
Re: light fuse..etc.
Thanks again and again
Mike the fuse blew first when the hood and lights were on the Cubby. I traced the wires from Jim's diagram and all seems good. Hood and tank (since this is one and the same shouldn't it have its own name, like hank or tood) were sent to radiator shop so I replaced the fuse and have power to both sides of the fuse and to the headlight wires. I guess the next thing is replace the HANK and hope for the best. Thanks for all the responses..!
Mike the fuse blew first when the hood and lights were on the Cubby. I traced the wires from Jim's diagram and all seems good. Hood and tank (since this is one and the same shouldn't it have its own name, like hank or tood) were sent to radiator shop so I replaced the fuse and have power to both sides of the fuse and to the headlight wires. I guess the next thing is replace the HANK and hope for the best. Thanks for all the responses..!
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Re: light fuse..etc.
That leads me to believe even more that your resistor wire (the coil on the light switch) grounded to your HANK (tank/Hood) and shorted out the system. If you have power to the fuse and turn the switch on with nothing hooked up to it, then the wires are not shorting to the body of the tractor. The other thing to consider is an internal short inside the light itself. Don't recall the cutoff, but does the '53 Cub have pancake lights? If it has teardrops still, then check to make sure that the internal wires are not touching the metal inside the housing. That'll cause a short, too. If a pancake light, the same thing applies. If your bulbs have internal connections, make sure that they are not touching the housing.
Just some more things to check!
Just some more things to check!
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