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New to red tractors

Postby Secesh » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:10 pm

Hello,
My wife and I have decided that a Cub would be a lot of help in our large garden. I am, however, completely ignorant when it comes to things Farmall. I would greatly appreciate any and all advice.
Thanks!

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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Eugene » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:49 pm

How large of a garden and what type of crops?

I think that there are better garden tractors for a small garden than a Cub. That's from the owner of two Cubs. They were basically designed for a small farmer who installed an implement (plow) and then plowed for several days. Switched implements and used that implement for days.

Problem with a Cub is that you will probably spend more time switching implements than performing the task if you have a smaller garden. Some folks use Cubs for large gardens and they work out well.
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Re: New to red tractors

Postby dmacarthur » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:56 pm

As an example of what Eugene is saying, we grow vegatables on about an acre and have just recently started growing in rows long enough to use the Cub as a cultivator, basically rototiller and hand weeding is easier unless the rows are long and even and cultivator-ready...... Then, the Cub is a wonder! Best of luck...... Dan

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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Eugene » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:24 pm

I use my Cub, plow, disk harrow, and peg toothed harrow for a deer food plot, 1 1/2 acres.

I no longer use the Cub and implements on my small garden plots. Not enough room to turn around, takes to long to change implements and takes considerable time to move Cub and implements from plot to plot.

I have a 2 wheeled garden tractor with plow that I plow the garden plots. Disk harrow and peg toothed harrow towed behind a Cub Cadet. I also have a rear tine tiller that is the garden work horse.

Just pointing out some draw backs. As I previously stated, folks with larger gardens love their Cubs.
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Re: New to red tractors

Postby ricky racer » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:53 pm

A Fast HItch makes implement changes much quicker and easier.
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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Secesh » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:17 pm

The plot is 150' x 150' not counting the headlands. I have a nice Troy-Bilt Horse rear tine tiller, but during hay season I don't have the hours it takes to get over this ground, and it's too difficult for my better half to handle. There's just something about tillers and chainsaws, they'll really make you sweat, and that Horse tiller is a heatstroke killer. We already plant in very wide rows. The 8N's can drag the Dearborn cultivator through until the stuff gets tall, and the bigger tractors can knock out the plowing, disking, etc, on their way to or from the fields. What we need is a narrow, small tractor that little Susie can handle, to cultivate regularily and pull a cart. At about four feet wide the Cub seems to fit that requirement.
I'm unfamiliar with these tractors. With an N or a 40 series New Holland, I know the things that need scrutiny. If or when I go to look at a Cub, what should I watch/look for? It'll get a working restoration and its own shed in which to repose when off duty.
Thanks

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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Bigschuss » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:27 am

Secesh wrote:The plot is 150' x 150' not counting the headlands. I have a nice Troy-Bilt Horse rear tine tiller, but during hay season I don't have the hours it takes to get over this ground, and it's too difficult for my better half to handle. There's just something about tillers and chainsaws, they'll really make you sweat, and that Horse tiller is a heatstroke killer. We already plant in very wide rows. The 8N's can drag the Dearborn cultivator through until the stuff gets tall, and the bigger tractors can knock out the plowing, disking, etc, on their way to or from the fields. What we need is a narrow, small tractor that little Susie can handle, to cultivate regularily and pull a cart. At about four feet wide the Cub seems to fit that requirement.
I'm unfamiliar with these tractors. With an N or a 40 series New Holland, I know the things that need scrutiny. If or when I go to look at a Cub, what should I watch/look for? It'll get a working restoration and its own shed in which to repose when off duty.
Thanks


If all you need is a tractor to pull a cart and do some cultivating then yes, a Cub would be a great choice. As other have pointed out, there are some issues with Cubs that do make them a bit of a niche tractor…pto spins in reverse, no 3 pt. hitch, implements scan be difficult to hook up (unless you have a fast hitch).
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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Hengy » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:36 am

I love my cubs, but they are definitely "on chore per season" tractors. Merlin (1949 Cub) is the mower tractor in the Spring, Summer and Fall, and the snow plow in the Winter. He also pulls the cub trailer to haul stuff off of our property down to the lower hollow on my uncle's land.

Lewis, when he is done, is going to take over the mowing duties and then Merlin can be set up as a plow/disk tractor and then perhaps a cultivator tractor after plowing is done.

I love cubs, but they will break your back changing implements over between chores. Really depends on what you want to do with the tractor.

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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Stanton » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:51 am

Here's couple threads in the "How-To" archive that may interest you. The first is "How a New Cub Enthusiast Can Inspect a Cub Purchase". It will give you some good advice on what to look for when considering buying a Cub:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=48032

The second is "What to do with a Cub you just brought home" which will get you started on your new-to-you Cub:

viewtopic.php?f=145&t=16305

Sounds like a 150' x 150' (aka, 1/2 acre) is enough IMO to own/operate a Cub. But as others have said, changing implements can be time consuming w/o a fast hitch. Much easier to just buy several Cubs and dedicate each tractor for a specific implement. :D

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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Papa's Cub » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:12 am

I like the rational of Stanton, Barnyard and a few of the other members on this site. Changing implements regularly can become a lot like work. I'm slowly but surly resolving this problem. I ask the wife to help when I need to swap implements. Then in casual conversation I state " Sure would be nice if we had a dedicated cub for this piece of equipment ". :lol: Well, .... this is how I acquired our 2nd cub. I'm hoping when we remove the planter and cultivators in about month from now I'll get approval to adopt another cub. :worthy: Having fun, Tom.
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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Matt Kirsch » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:41 pm

Cubs are all-around solid tractors like any Farmall of that era. That said due to the age, ANY point is a potential "weak point" so the answer to what to look for is, everything, or nothing.

Obvious stuff to look for is what you'd look for on ANY tractor. Major leaks. Starts good. Runs smoothly. Has decent power. All systems function. Doesn't smoke profusely. Nothing obviously broken externally. Good tires. Solid rims. Nothing exceptionally sloppy.

Any issues are an instant discount to the price of the tractor. If the seller and you can agree on a good price, then anything can be fixed.

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Re: New to red tractors

Postby Secesh » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:50 pm

Thanks guys, I shall now begin looking.

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Re: New to red tractors

Postby bythepond88 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:30 am

Secesh:

Welcome to the best forum on the Web! Here's a list of FAQ that may help. #10 is a list of things to check when scoping out a possible purchase.

http://www.atis.net/CubFAQ/cub_faq.html#q10
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