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Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Redcub » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:53 pm

Don't kill the messenger. Yes, Kil Deere, as in the bird.

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So do you think this guy put in a straight shaft where the crank shaft normally sits with a v-belt pulley on it? Remove head, pistons, manifold, etc?
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Redcub » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:12 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killdeer
the bird looks to be fairly wide spread across the land.
Wish he had used a Harley engine with big pipes.
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Rick Spivey » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:12 am

I'm actually wondering if he is turning the original crankshaft, perhaps minus the pistons and rods???? Hard to tell what's under that hood....
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby pickerandsinger » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:16 am

I suppose "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"……I really shouldn't finish this………….. :lol:
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby gitractorman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:59 am

Rick,
I think you hit it. The original crank pulley is in line with the pulley on the Honda engine. The rest of the tractor would work like normal. Ironically, I'll bet it works just fine. Looks like crap, but I'll bet it works.
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Urbish » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:45 am

All I see is room for three more 11-horse hondas turning a jack-shaft connected to the other groove in the front pulley.
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Scrivet » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:46 am

I really like the white accents :lol: the implement mounting pads (why wouldn't you do both?), the insides of the front axle, the Cub engine oil drain plug, the stripes on the square fenders.................

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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Eugene » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:30 am

Why?

My guess, the original crankshaft is still in place. Would need the original crankshaft with idler gears to power the hydraulic pump and the cam shaft for the oil pump.

Another question. If the original crankshaft is in place, How did they plug the oil holes in the crankshaft for the connecting rod journals?

Looks like something an 11 year old kid would do. Other than the engine having a higher rpms, 3600 RPMs vs 1800 RPMs, no advantage. The C60 engine has/had a higher horsepower than the current Honda engine.
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Hengy » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:10 am

How do they keep the bearings in the engine oiled? Do they pump the original oil pump? Have they taken the pistons and rods out or have they just taken the head off the Cub Engine to allow the pistons to move?

Just trying to figure out how this would possibly work? Think of the power loss from the 11 HP engine driving all of the engine components in addition to the driveline!!

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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:14 am

You guys are probably overthinking this beyond what the owner considered. He may not even have oil on the remains of the Cub engine. Maybe he just knocked holes in all the pistons to make it turn easier. All sorts of things can happen when somebody starts looking at a pile of junk parts.

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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Redcub » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:42 am

If its still there this coming weekend, I'll see if I can get a little nosey. Maybe the guys next door under the red tent will know. I'm quite sure they will have plenty to say about it. I'll start the conversation off with something like "Hey howdy guys. When you guys putting Toyota 22R engines on your Farmall H?"

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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Hengy » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:44 am

So true, Jim. But turning at the speeds of that 11hp engine, wouldn't it seize up with no oil in it?
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:51 am

Hengy wrote:So true, Jim. But turning at the speeds of that 11hp engine, wouldn't it seize up with no oil in it?

Eventually.

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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby Redcub » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:56 am

What if he just fill up the pan ( over filled ) with dirty motor oil and just lets it splash around on the old crank shaft? Put a piece of foam from an old chair on top of the block and screw down the plywood. Who knows? Now I'm dying to get a look under the plywood.
Perhaps he doesn't use the TC hyd system and it does not work.
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Re: Kil Deere Honda conversion Cub ( pics )

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:40 pm

It is definitely interesting and if ANYONE could go take a closer look and take some pictures, that would be "neat" to see. Man.....the things some people do.......haha.
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