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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby Kirk-NJ » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:21 am

Scott,
If you need a standard rockshaft rod I have one. I am open for a trade. Send me a pm if interested.

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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby pickerandsinger » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:48 am

PoconoCub wrote:
Bill Hudson wrote:Scott,

You are using parts from two different lift systems so there are some mechanical differences to account for.

In your case it is simple because the rockshaft you have uses a solid lift rod -no adjustment whatsoever. Since you are using a FH lift rod simply determine the proper length for the solid rod and set the adjusting nut and stop collar (after removing the spring) to the same length and tighten everything up. Your FH lift rod now functions as fixed length lift rod.

Using your FH lift rod on a FH is different in that some applications require a fixed length for slight down pressure. Other applications actually no down pressure, plowing being one that immediately comes to mind. Fixed length + down pressure applied + hitting a rock lifting the plow = bent lift rod.

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No down pressure is my goal, the ground I will be working after the winter is hard and full of rocks. I am thinking of using the 193 moldboard first then the front and rear cultivators.

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If rocks were potatoes I'd be a millionaire…I use the plow(fast hitch version) without the coulter and I set it up according to MR Hudsons specs….I cannot say enough about getting it set up properly….Then I disc harrow it….In the spring when it is slightly still wet seems to be the best time for my soil….It can be plowed afterward but it is a lot tougher…I know their are guys who don't like to plow when its wet but when rocks are involved it helps me….Course then you got all them rocks to deal with …..I just tried plowing with my "new" FH and old style Depth Control Lever ( another Bill recommendation BTW) and with weighted tires….I am amazed at what a Cub can do…. :D :D :D….BTW when I say wet I don't mean Sloppy, just enough for the rocks to have a place to move... :thanx:
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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:36 pm

This is a little bit of a side track, the the arm on your rockshaft appears to be a converted hand lift. The base appears normal, but the extra ear makes me think hand lift.
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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby PoconoCub » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:03 pm

Bill Hudson wrote:Scott,

As it appears to me, the spring is attached to exert down pressure on the rockshaft. In most situations the rockshaft is meant to only exert lifting force no down pressure. Take the spring off.

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Look Bill no spring :) I am so glad I have a 3/4" drive set....

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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby PoconoCub » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:15 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:This is a little bit of a side track, the the arm on your rockshaft appears to be a converted hand lift. The base appears normal, but the extra ear makes me think hand lift.


I am not sure what that extra arm is for maybe a helper spring, but I can tell you it is a factory addition and it is a normal rear rockshaft. I am pretty sure I bought it from TM Tractor or maybe JP Tractor a few years ago.

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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:22 pm

The extra ear was added by the factory for a helper spring. It was needed for the 201 planter and I think some other things.

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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby PoconoCub » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:22 pm

pickerandsinger wrote:If rocks were potatoes I'd be a millionaire…I use the plow(fast hitch version) without the coulter and I set it up according to MR Hudsons specs….I cannot say enough about getting it set up properly….Then I disc harrow it….In the spring when it is slightly still wet seems to be the best time for my soil….It can be plowed afterward but it is a lot tougher…I know their are guys who don't like to plow when its wet but when rocks are involved it helps me….Course then you got all them rocks to deal with …..I just tried plowing with my "new" FH and old style Depth Control Lever ( another Bill recommendation BTW) and with weighted tires….I am amazed at what a Cub can do…. :D :D :D….BTW when I say wet I don't mean Sloppy, just enough for the rocks to have a place to move... :thanx:


I'd be a multi millionaire :) 1. I live in the PA Slate belt so under the dirt is lots of shale, 2. A few years ago I was filling in large areas of my property and had lots of free what they call clean fill dropped and added many more rocks.

I have no problem with the rocks I will dig up, I still have a large pit to fill in and that is where the rocks will go :)

Mr Hudson will have to school me on how to set things up right so I don't hurt anything but the ground.

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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby PoconoCub » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:40 pm

Well with all this work adding the rear rockshaft, using the FH lift rod and installing the lifting bar the SMV triangle has a new home...

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Can't get anymore Center of the tractor than that :)

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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby PoconoCub » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:46 pm

Jim Becker wrote:The extra ear was added by the factory for a helper spring. It was needed for the 201 planter and I think some other things.


Thanks for the confirmation Jim, here is a picture of the helper spring setup...

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Re: Using Fast Hitch Lift Rod for Rear Rockshaft

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:47 pm

That arm and spring appear to be the same as used on the hand lift, just a different method for holding the front end.
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