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1953 cub headlights

Postby jayc1945 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:57 pm

hey guys! i just bought a 1953 cub, and i need a set of head lights for it. i'll have a boatload of questions about it as time goes on, but right now the lights are the first thing i'm lookin at, as well as grounding probs. but i need a place to buy the lights first, i'm sure someone knows a place to get them reasonably. you guys are a wealth of info. and i'm grateful to have found this forum! any info. would be very helpful! THANKS! :?:

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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:04 pm

Place an ad in the Vine. I'll bet someone has a few extras they're willing to sell. If that comes up short, try JP Tractor Salvage (sponsor at the bottom of the page). TM Tractor (another sponsor) has replacement parts (bulbs, lenses, etc.). Unless your Cub has been converted to 12 volt, everything you need will be for 6 volt. There was also a rear work light/taillight.

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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Eugene » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:04 pm

Assuming you need the entire head light. Try the advertisers on this board. You can place a want ad in "The Vine".

If you only need light bulbs, auto parts store.
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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Alan Gee » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:27 pm

There are a few sites on line that have light fixtures. What you may want to watch out for is the flat style has an opening in the back where the hot wire connects OK, there is a space around the bulb base that will let in water and sooner of later rust the lamp housing . The fixtures with the deeper rounded back are better.

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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Dale Finch » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:11 pm

Are you looking for 6 or 12 volt lights? I have two 6 volt flatback headlights I don't need.

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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby jayc1945 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:09 pm

Dale, I have the 6v. lights, but they have the brass? pigtail on them. and are rounded on the back. I'm new so I'm assuming that means a round back? and also, it says "guide" in the middle front of the lens, and, 4-5/8 under that. the pigtail assy. is broke on one of them , the other is intact, but they are both pretty rusted. uncertain about it. thanks!

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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Eugene » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:12 pm

My opinion. Lights on my Cub would be one of the last things on my to do list. Take care of other problems first.
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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Denny Clayton » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:51 pm

Eugene wrote:My opinion. Lights on my Cub would be one of the last things on my to do list. Take care of other problems first.

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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby ricky racer » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:35 pm

I plow snow with mine usually after work and with the short days in winter that usually means after dark. It's easier to do when I can see. :wink:
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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Barnyard » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:37 pm

Have you tried JP Tractor Salvage? They are a site sponsor. Their link is at the bottom of the page.
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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Alan Gee » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:53 pm

Here are two types of light assemblys. The flater ones tend to let water in the opening in the back much more that the domed ones.
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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Glen » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:02 pm

Hi,
Here is some info about the candlepower of Cub headlights, and rear lights. This is for the 6 volt lights. There was basically 3 different styles of lights, depending on the year of the Cub, they used a light bulb, or 2 different sealed beam units, from 1947 - 1964, when the Cubs were 6 volts.
The 1st style light, starting in 1947, has a light bulb in it, I asked at NAPA about the candlepower once, they said the number 1133 bulb, that the IH parts book says to use in them, has 32 candlepower. That's the same as a backup light bulb that many GM cars used. Not very bright for a headlight.
The 2nd style was the flatback light, appearing in about 1953, I don't know the candlepower for those, I couldn't find info for it, they are much brighter than the bulb type though. They have the first type of sealed beam unit that IH used on a Cub.
The 3rd style appeared in about 1958. It has the more modern 4511 sealed beam unit in it, and has 2000 candlepower, much more light for nighttime use.
The IH combination rear light and tail light, I don't have candlepower info for those, I didn't look into those. :)

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Re: 1953 cub headlights

Postby Alan Gee » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:49 am

My Cub still is running the 6 volt system. I had a bit of problem getting 6 volt bulbs. I gave up. Then I got creative. I always have been sort of a Rube Goldberg person so I figured that all I needed was a light that works on 6 volts. A four cell flashlight works out to 6 volts at 1.5 volts per -D- battery. So I went to WalMart and picked up two Ultra Bright LED bulbs for a 4 cell flashlight and soldered some short wires on them and adapted them to the headlight socket.
They work just fine and are pretty bright ,,AND are said to last for 500 hours, I wont live long enought to drive the tractor for 500 hours at night.
There are two funny side notes, One, I accidentaly left them on and they were on for two days before I noticed and they did not drain the battery at all, they have like zero power requirement.
Two ,,with the light switch OFF the led's twinkle a little. I wondered why. It turns out that the wire running past the ignition system picks up just enought induced voltage to make them twinkle. So even with them OFF they create a little safety for you , ha ha ha


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