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Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Barnyard » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:27 am

I originally posted in the Cadet forum to get a value. Now it looks like this will be more Cub related so I need advice.

I have a chance to pick up a belt driven, 30" snow blower I thought about adapting to a Cub similar to mounting like a belly mount flail mower. Will a Cub have too much power to operate this. It appears there is no mounting hardware, just what is in the picture.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:32 am

If this is not a two stage blower (and it doesn't look like it is), with the Cub's "not-so-slow" ground speed, you may not get the desired results.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Bill Hudson » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:51 am

Don McCombs wrote:If this is not a two stage blower (and it doesn't look like it is), with the Cub's "not-so-slow" ground speed, you may not get the desired results.


Don is correct. Not a two stage blower and the Cub will be way to fast. I've used a 40" blower made just like that one and a hydrostatic drive is essential. Question for you, why do you want a blower that is narrower than the track of the Cub? Seems to me that you would be packing down a lot of snow making it harder to blow.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Barnyard » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:54 am

Thanks Don. Being belt driven, I wasn't sure if I could adjust the blower speed by changing pulleys.

Bill Hudson wrote:Question for you, why do you want a blower that is narrower than the track of the Cub? Seems to me that you would be packing down a lot of snow making it harder to blow.

Just kicking around ideas is all.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Harold R » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:27 am

Just kicking around ideas is all.


that one and a hydrostatic drive is essential.


Seems like a hydrostatic cub would be a good project.....I'm suprised there's not one out there somewhere.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby BIGHOSS » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:52 am

Harold R wrote:
Just kicking around ideas is all.


that one and a hydrostatic drive is essential.


Seems like a hydrostatic cub would be a good project.....I'm suprised there's not one out there somewhere.


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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:10 pm

They work very well, on a hydrostatic cadet. As mentioned by others, the cub ground speed is too fast. Only way to slow the cub, is lower RPM's, which is contrary to what the blower needs.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby 1541 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:07 pm

I have seen pictures posted on the forum before where the snow blower was powered by a small engine via belt then the ground speed was controlled by the throttle:

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Puffie40 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:53 pm

A separate engine is probably your best bet for a single stage. That allows you to putt along at low gear, low throttle while not having to worry about power delivery to the blower. I would think a 12 horse motor is the absolute minimum you would need for that width of blower.

The other option is to try an find a newer, two stage blower to use in a different brand (those blowers are most likely a sticker slap anyway). I know Gravely sold a two stage for their two wheel tractors, and you would undoubtedly find something if you look at John Deere blowers.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby ricky racer » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:56 pm

I think if you had a despeeder you'd be fine with a Cub. However, you'll add width to the Cub...
With a despeeder, you could run the blower with the pto. Too much power isn't an issue, that's what shear bolts are for. Shear bolts should only come into play it it encounters something solid.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:12 pm

[quote="Puffie40"]A separate engine is probably your best bet for a single stage. That allows you to putt along at low gear, low throttle while not having to worry about power delivery to the blower. I would think a 12 horse motor is the absolute minimum you would need for that width of blower.

My son's 10 HP hydrostatic cadet handles a 42 inch blower, with no problem.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Smokeycub » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:19 pm

Hmm - really? I think I'd add an engine, wheels, and a handle and make it a walk behind. ...or like others have stated, put it in front of a hydro Cadet.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Jeff Silvey » Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:13 pm

Bill just let go of some of your retirement money & get a walk behind two stage snow blower. Its good exercise for you.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Barnyard » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:26 pm

Yeah, yeah, yeah guys, I have a 454 sitting in the barn with nothing to do. I also have several Dana 44's and a Dana 60 sitting around waiting for me to put to use. I guess I could put my Cubs out to pasture and build this. :lol:

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby ricky racer » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:35 pm

Myself, I like the idea. It looks like a great, fun project. Once done, it will be a handy tool for snow removal and just one more way to use your Cub. One drawback to adding another engine to run the blower is, well, it's just another motor to maintain. Those saying "mount it on a Hydro Cadet" make good sense. But that is simple and anyone can do it. Coming up with a different approach to solve a problem is a challenge and an exercise in thoroughly thinking things through.

If you can drive a snow blower by the PTO, that would be sweet. The problem with doing that, as stated before, is the Cubs ground speed is to fast. The only way to reduce that speed is with a despeeder. Now normally the despeeder is mounted on the left side of the tranny. That extends the width of the Cub wider than the snow blower. Could the despeeder be mounted on the right side by removing the differential housing and inserting the despeeder in it's place? Of course you'd have to use the shorter axle from the left side. I haven't given it much thought but if it could be done, it would keep the overall width narrow enough to keep the wheels inside the blower width.

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:roll: After giving it some thought, it's probably not too feasible.

I hope you give it a go if you think it could work. I'd like to see what you come up with.... :wink:
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