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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:44 pm

If I remember correctly, there are some places just around the corner from Mr E that was for sale. Then you would not have to worry about snow. :sunning:
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Scrivet » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:59 pm

If we are in the "what if" mode. I would try it either off the PTO or adding an engine depending on how serious I was. For the width concerns, what if you could make some funnel wings that scooped a path the width or a little wider than the Cub and funneled it into the blower. Most snow blowers work better in certain conditions like dry powder and progressively become useless with wetter snow. Depth as well, works great in a couple inches but not a couple feet of snow. Scooping into the blower should work OK in dry inches of snow, but in wet feet, get out the big guns. As long as you figure out the parameters and use accordingly I think it would be just like the Cub itself. It has it's limitations, but keep those in mind and it is a very useful tool.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby gitractorman » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:34 pm

Bill,
I regularly come up with ideas like this, with a lot of "what if" in them, and I generall throw them in the trash once I sit down and list out the steps involved and the list of parts that I would have to buy. Honestly, I don't eve need to go that far on this one to just throw it out the window. From experience I know that the Cub Cadet snow throwers are just "ok". That's it in a nutshell. They work nicely on the garden tractors but not great. I've owned several and have gotten rid of them all!

I seriously doubt you will ever get a snow blower to work as well on a Cub as the original 54" blade works at plowing snow. If the snow is heavy enough that you can't push and clear it with a blade on the Cub then it's highly unlikely that a rigged up Cub Cadet snow blower that was only "so-so" when originally used on the cub cadet that it was built for, will ever work!

Believe me, I think a Cub snow blower would be cool, but honestly, the cub 54 blade does such a good job, and works so quickly often running in second gear, that the creeping slow ground speed needed for a snow blower to eat though the snow would just be the nail in the coffin for this project if it was me.

Save your time and money and move on to another project!!!!!!!
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Eugene » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:42 pm

Best snow mover I own is a Case 16 hp skid steer with a blade from a cub cadet, mounted (bolted) to the bucket.

Son in-law has a commercial firm clean his drive way and side walk. $15-. Takes the commercial firm 5 or so minutes with big equipment.

Sometimes it's cheaper to hire someone to do the work.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Barnyard » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:09 pm

Thanks for all the input. My original intent was to have something to tinker with, but that planned has now been shelved. As of late this afternoon I have found that I will have a bigger project to tinker with. More on that in a later post. :D
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:18 pm

You can buy a walk behind, two stage blower for the price of the despeeder.
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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Puffie40 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:42 am

Adjusting the ground speed by not using the Howard despeeder is possible, but a lot of effort for a 50-year old tractor.

Let's think here...

Adjusting the gear ratios of the gearbox would be too expensive unless you are a skilled machinist and mechanical engineer...

Converting a cub to hydrostatic drive would require as much work and money as the above, but would be rather interesting to look into...

You might be able to sandwich a creeper reduction between the torque tube and gearbox... I wonder if the planetaries from a Gravely would work...

You could fit planetary torque hubs onto the rear axle... That might actually be a fairly simple modification to do, if a bit intensive.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby UK-Cub » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:08 am

Puffie40 wrote:Adjusting the ground speed by not using the Howard despeeder is possible, but a lot of effort for a 50-year old tractor.

Let's think here...

Adjusting the gear ratios of the gearbox would be too expensive unless you are a skilled machinist and mechanical engineer...

Converting a cub to hydrostatic drive would require as much work and money as the above, but would be rather interesting to look into...

You might be able to sandwich a creeper reduction between the torque tube and gearbox... I wonder if the planetaries from a Gravely would work...

You could fit planetary torque hubs onto the rear axle... That might actually be a fairly simple modification to do, if a bit intensive.


Smaller wheels? speed is directly proportional to diameter.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby Puffie40 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:37 am

I ran some numbers through a wheel speed calculator - a 235R16 truck tire would reduce the speed by 25%.

Thats possible I guess, but with the cost of ground clearance and traction.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby FarmallCubby1949 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:54 pm

I already use a walk behind snowblower for the driveway and it works good, except when you have dryer snow and wind, then it blows in your face. You have to keep adjusting the shoot. I'm looking to get a blade for my cub and just go with that. I used to work at a country club / gorlfcourse in my area. I plowed snow there in the winter for the clubhouse, the GCU insurance company that owned the club, and the roads along the golfcourse where people lived. I used a 98 Chevy Dump with a 5 spd tranny and 6.5 diesel. I ran tractors, skidsteer, back hoe, greens and fairway mowers. Side by side utility vehicles. The point is I like to plow, and I know it would be more fun with a cub. Everything is more fun with a cub.

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Re: Is a Cub too much power?

Postby BigBill » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:25 am

single stage snow blowers well I cant say it here. The older gravely tractor model L8 with its 12' connecting rod with the two stage open sided is the best snow blower I have ever seen. All my neighbors were outside in awe watching me throw 4" of heavy wet slush over the tops of the telephone poles. I never see anything do that to this day.
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