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Electric Cub conversion....

Postby dmacarthur » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:18 pm

Anyone seen this, the conversion of Cubs to electric done professionally by Valley Oak in California?

http://www.valleyoaktool.com/electric-tractors/

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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:49 pm

That one has been around the forum a time or two. Not sure if I care for it, but I'm old school.
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby Eugene » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:17 pm

As Bill said, it's been around for a while.

Not sure it's economically viable. You have to consider the cost of the conversion and a new set of batteries every 6 years. Tending to lean towards a standard Cub with gasoline engine as being the least expensive to operate.

I looked at a Chevy Volt couple years ago. Ran the numbers. Numbers didn't work out.
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:25 pm

I have never sat down and gone through all the figures, but you have to take into consideration what that conversion would cost, plus the electric to recharge it, even with the assist of solar for the charging, which makes the initial cost a lot higher. Then take into consideration the replacement of batteries every few years, of which Eugene stating 6 years I believe to be very optimistic for them, I figure with the higher current used to run the cub and how far they would be drained each time, 4 years would be long life for a useable capacity. Then balance that against how little fuel a cub uses, even when working at full capacity, and I figure the conversion would cost 2 or 3 times the amount of fuel mine would burn in my lifetime. It makes about as much since as converting my old 16 year old Escort that gets 30+mpg on the highway to an electric powered car. If someone wants to do it just to see how it works out that would be great, but do not expect it to have a financial payback, even if you provide the labor and only buy the material.
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby oldhammerhead » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:56 pm

Has anyone noticed the price of batteries lately? wow knock your socks off.Crazy!

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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby clodhopper » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:24 pm

I would love to see it pull a plow, and how long it would last doing that.

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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby George M » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:29 pm

I wonder how well something like that could work / plough / pull like a 'real' tractor or if that source of power is as reliable as it was before the conversion... A conversation piece and an interesting find. I saw this one in a video on YouTube, here's the link: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJxLuK8rjVQ
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:24 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:...you have to take into consideration what that conversion would cost...

Considering a partially reconditioned one cost $7,000.00 and a fully reconditioned one goes for a mere $12,500.00, I believe I will stick with my leaky full bowl, smoky motor, hard to start, plain ol' Cub. :)
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby BrianRoberts » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:02 pm

I work on hybrids and EV's and i will take my cub that doesn't have to have a battery and my 496CI gas hog to pull it with over anything electric.

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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby leerenovations » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:05 pm

George M wrote:I wonder how well something like that could work / plough / pull like a 'real' tractor or if that source of power is as reliable as it was before the conversion... A conversation piece and an interesting find. I saw this one in a video on YouTube, here's the link: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJxLuK8rjVQ



Wow that looks like a john deere and massey harris raped a farmall and that is the result.
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby BigBill » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:57 pm

Well going green with a red fcub.
Add a solar charger and an easy to swap out battery bank. They might have something. I'm not ready to go that green yet.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby Eugene » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:41 am

One of my post retirement and another post retirement job was to operate a battery maintenance and exchange station for fork lifts.

The company operated 24 hours a day. Fork lift batteries wore designed to operate a lift for approximately an 8 hour shift. This meant that the company had to have approximately 2 1/2 batteries for each of the fork lifts. The 2 1/2 batteries per fork lift accomplished recharging the batteries, cool down, service, and periodic equalization.

This was a monstrous indoor facility. You couldn't have 40 or 50 fuel powered engines running without killing off the employees.

I can visualize some applications where a battery powered small tractor would be required or make sense. Other side of the coin is that, assumption, most of us use our Cub tractor outside in the fresh air.
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby Buzzard Wing » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:42 am

I'm all for innovation, but a Cub sure seems to go a long way on a gallon of gas.
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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby Scrivet » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:48 am

My thoughts on a Cub electric conversion is it's a conversation starter/boasting rights look what I can do piece. Just like all the other "orphan" models. You know the ones, the twin tractors, and the ones with V-8 engines, etc. Not saying it's good or bad it is what it is. When I think of electric vehicles and conversation starter/boasting right vehicles I think immediately of the Prius and how many people bought those "to be green " or "to save money on gas" and then never took their foot out of them so the gas motor could shut down.

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Re: Electric Cub conversion....

Postby Urbish » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:39 am

leerenovations wrote:Wow that looks like a john deere and massey harris raped a farmall and that is the result.


I'm not for rape jokes, but that's hilarious.


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