Database Update 19 Jan 2015

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Sailor » Mon May 09, 2016 3:36 pm

I guess it would help if I provided the serial number of my cub: 16812

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby LilCub » Sat May 28, 2016 5:24 pm

Is there a diagram that shows the location of all of the numbers? I think that would help us who have not located them all yet.

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Jim Becker » Sat May 28, 2016 6:12 pm

I don't think there is a complete diagram but most are shown on a TM Tractor Parts page:
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/castdate_loc.htm

Some changed locations over the years, for example very late Touch-Control blocks have it inside the front of the housing.

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Ttblake402 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:26 am

I just purchaced a 1948 cub

Sn: FCUB 25076
Motor: 25552
Torque tube: 5-19-x
Trans part #: 351530-R1
Trans cast: 11-5-O
Axle extension: 8-7-O
Left final: 4-5?-R
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Right final: 4-7-R

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Sailor » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:24 am

Raymond,

My correct casting number for the transmission should be 10-3-Q. I don't know why I have two pieces from a '47 unit; the Axle Extension (8-7-Q) and the transmission. During the restoration, I did notice parts with red, yellow and I think white paint. Since the right brake pedal and the clutch/left brake shaft were bent, I suspect this tractor was involved in a role over sometime in it's past.

Keep up the great work, I carry a copy of your work wherever I travel.... just in case. :D
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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby RaymondDurban » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:08 pm

Back stateside and catching up on these posts and PMs.

Hope to have enough data to justify an update soon. If you have any data, submit anytime!

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:23 pm

Welcome home, Raymond.
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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Jeff Silvey » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:04 am

:Dito: on what Don said.
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" EVERYBODY GOES HOME THE NEXT MORNING"

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby RaymondDurban » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:57 pm

Thanks fellas, certainly happy to be home!

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Ben B » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:32 pm

Yes, glad to hear that you are back. I submitted my info in a pm a while back. I sure do appreciate you putting all that together. I'm sure it is a daunting task, but it is very handy and resourceful. Thank you for doing it!
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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:22 pm

Here is a "new to me" 1951, but (hopefully!) it will be going to a new home! Missing a couple numbers, but didn't have a mirror with me.

I have a question about the Tractor SN vs the Engine SN...I am sure about the CUBM 3217...why are they so different? Anyway, here are the numbers:

Year - 1951
Tractor SN - 142038
Eng - CUBM 3217
Eng cast - ?
Eng block part - 251341R8
Cyl Hd cast - ?
Bolster cast - ?
Torque tube cast - ?-?-W
Trans part - 351530R3
Trans cast - 10-15-W
Axle ext cast - 10-18-W
L final cast - 9-20-W
R final cast - 9-20-W
TC cast - 8-23-W
TC part - 354383R3
Last edited by Dale Finch on Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:55 pm

Dale, take a look at your tractor SN. A 1951 should have 6 digits. As for the Engine SN and Tractor SN being different, the C60 engine was used for other applications but I've read that IH used consective engine serial numbers for all of them regardless of whether the engine went to a bailer, combine, power unit, etc so the later in the production run the wider the difference between the tractor SN and engine SN. Stan

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:58 pm

You need to recheck your notes. You have an engine prefix listed for your tractor serial number, which doesn't have enough digits for 1951. You didn't post an engine number. You are a digit short on the TC part number.

Your engine block number is an R8, which has to be from 1964 or later.

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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby Chipmaker » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:28 pm

Here's our 1947 model
Serial # 1447
Block (been changed) 9-9-Z
Head 3-28-Q
Torque tube 4-22-Q
Transmission 6-12-Q
Left final 6-4-Q
Right final 6-11-Q
Steering bolster 6-4-Q
Axle extension 4-15-Q
Ring gear holder 1-31-Q
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Re: Database Update 19 Jan 2015

Postby RaymondDurban » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:32 pm

staninlowerAL wrote:.... As for the Engine SN and Tractor SN being different, the C60 engine was used for other applications but I've read that IH used consective engine serial numbers for all of them regardless of whether the engine went to a bailer, combine, power unit, etc so the later in the production run the wider the difference between the tractor SN and engine SN. Stan

Stan, I can't answer for the other engines that IH used for tractor and stationary power plants and their corresponding SN's, but for Cubs and the C-60 engines, they used different SN sequences for the two power unit lines and another for the tractors.

Dale, if you can get the casting numbers from the block, we can narrow it down more. Also, if you look in front of the engine SN prefix (CUBM), check for a "U". If it's there, I'd say you have a 1969 power unit engine transplant.


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