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- Buzzard Wing
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Winter oil.
Never really stays cold around here in the winter so the last oil change on the Lo Boy I used 30 weight diesel oil (Rotella). For the air cleaner I usually use whatever part of a stray quart happens to be around, last time I think I put 30 non-detergent oil.
The Cub is never sluggish starting, until this winter. Seems to be starving for air, slow to fire (air cleaner???) and worse is the oil pressure takes a while to build.
The manual spec's 5w-20 or 10w (32F to 10F) 5w-20 or 10w WITH A 1/2 PINT OF KERO (10F to -10F). -10F and below, 10w with a pint of kero.
I will change the oil in the crankcase and air cleaner before I run it again. Never seen below zero here so I guess I am good if I can find 5W-20. Plan B would be the 5w-40 Rotella that I use in the diesel truck.
The Cub is never sluggish starting, until this winter. Seems to be starving for air, slow to fire (air cleaner???) and worse is the oil pressure takes a while to build.
The manual spec's 5w-20 or 10w (32F to 10F) 5w-20 or 10w WITH A 1/2 PINT OF KERO (10F to -10F). -10F and below, 10w with a pint of kero.
I will change the oil in the crankcase and air cleaner before I run it again. Never seen below zero here so I guess I am good if I can find 5W-20. Plan B would be the 5w-40 Rotella that I use in the diesel truck.
1971 Cub (Rufus) 1950 Cub (Cathy) 1965 Lo Boy Fast Hitch (Nameless III) 1970 Cub 1000 Loader & Fast Hitch (Lee)
- Buzzard Wing
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Re: Winter oil.
Oh yeah, Hy-Tran or 80 weight gear oil in the tranny and differential below 40F. I always use Hy-Tran anyway.
1971 Cub (Rufus) 1950 Cub (Cathy) 1965 Lo Boy Fast Hitch (Nameless III) 1970 Cub 1000 Loader & Fast Hitch (Lee)
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Re: Winter oil.
5w-20 shouldn't be hard to find. It's what my Windstar takes, and I've never had trouble finding it, but sometimes I can't get in the house brand.
Michael Cummings
Eddie - a 1959 International Lo-Boy named after my father in law, who who bought her new.
Eddie - a 1959 International Lo-Boy named after my father in law, who who bought her new.
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Re: Winter oil.
I run 10W30 in the winter and straight 30 in the summer in the engine. 5W20 may be a bit light unless you're in really cold temperatures (well below zero).
Jim
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Re: Winter oil.
Motocraft is good stuff -- sythetic blend, what I used till I got a diesel and wanted it to start at ZERO (switched to Rotella Syn). $17.98 for a Cub and 2/3 worth (5 Q) in 5w-20. But thought about it some and figured I would wait till the next storm to change it (storm would never happen if I just changed it). There are rules about such things.... I am testing them.
Only a month till the Osprey neighbors come back from Brazil..... And I have seen it snow on them, but pretty rare.
Only a month till the Osprey neighbors come back from Brazil..... And I have seen it snow on them, but pretty rare.
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Re: Winter oil.
5-20 is much more common than it used to be. Both my Tacoma and Honda call for 5/20 year round--methinks you should be able to find it anywhere.
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Re: Winter oil.
I would use what is recommenced. My Superduty Ford calls for 5w-20 year round.
- SONNY
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Re: Winter oil.
I use 10-40 in everything , EXCEPT the truck,---it calls for 30 the year round and use block heater 3 hours before starting it! Fords better idea I guess! its that 7.3 poochmobile motor! thanks; sonny
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Re: Winter oil.
Use what the manual says for the coldest temps. It takes a longtime for the farthest bearing to get oil when it's as thick as honey. Go by the manual or start ordering bearings and a crankshaft. Do it right or pay later to learn.
My cub next year will have 5/20 oil in it for the winter. When I get it running.
My cub next year will have 5/20 oil in it for the winter. When I get it running.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.
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- SONNY
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Re: Winter oil.
I don't run mine in the winter anyway so don't matter what they have in them for lube. as long as dipstick shows full! thanks; sonny
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Re: Winter oil.
Oils sure have changed alot in the 68 years since the first Cub came out. I used to run 10w in the winter and 10-30 in the summer. Since I've figured out how to get it going in the winter I now use 10-30 all year and since the loboy is getting pretty worn and only used in the summer,I run 20-50 in it to keep the oil pressure up
- Buzzard Wing
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Re: Winter oil.
Sonny, I used 15w-40 in my 7.3, but the first winter I switched to Rotella 5w-40. Started it a few times last weekend close to zero and as long as I let the glow plugs run their course (ignore the dash light, listen to the relay) it fires right up.
Oil analysis right after I bought the truck (with 211,000 miles) told me it was in good shape. I also learned that it's flat wasteful to change the oil every 3000 miles. I now run the car to 5K and the 7.3 I change once a year (10,000 miles). Blackstone even called me when I sent a sample from a Cub! Same Lo Boy I use to plow snow, my metal counts were high and they wanted to warn me. Bet they are much higher now! Pretty useful information: http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ It is just a marketing scam to change it too early.
Oil analysis right after I bought the truck (with 211,000 miles) told me it was in good shape. I also learned that it's flat wasteful to change the oil every 3000 miles. I now run the car to 5K and the 7.3 I change once a year (10,000 miles). Blackstone even called me when I sent a sample from a Cub! Same Lo Boy I use to plow snow, my metal counts were high and they wanted to warn me. Bet they are much higher now! Pretty useful information: http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ It is just a marketing scam to change it too early.
1971 Cub (Rufus) 1950 Cub (Cathy) 1965 Lo Boy Fast Hitch (Nameless III) 1970 Cub 1000 Loader & Fast Hitch (Lee)
- SONNY
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Re: Winter oil.
My 7.3 is in a 97 --f-350 and has 110,000 mi. on it and shop changed oil/filter last year 1 time,--I think they only buy/use penzoil 10-40 --(NEVER did like that brand!--it turns to wax after its been a motor for a certain length of time) I had a good 10,000 on the truck when they changed it, so guess it was due for a change. thanks; sonny thanks; sonny
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