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12v conversion woes

Postby coppersmythe » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:35 pm

Its a 1963 cub , strong as an ox , all implement holes had original corks in them :D . I decided to try the 12v conversion route . I'm not trying to get the 12v-6v debate started (again) . just advice on the problem at hand . I bought the napa alt. ( 213 4011sw ) . I hooked it up as shown in the schematic on this forum . I ran it up to 1800-2000 rpm , for quite a while , down to 450-500 rpm, back up to high rev for a while . it will not show more than 9 volts on brand new volt meter . all wire connections are new , with new 10 ga. wire . I brought the alt. back to napa , they tested it on there machine , it said ok . I put it back on the tractor , and took a 12v test light , got a good ground , touched the bat terminal on the alt. at low and high rpm , and the light BARELY glowed , 9v on the voltmeter . I touched the starter connection and it glowed BRIGHT . I touched the bat terminal on the alt. again , I could barely see the glow . I touched the positive terminal on the battery , and it glowed bright . I took the alt. to auto zone , and then o'riellys and both said it tested fine :?: . ANY IDEAS :?: . coppersmythe..........................................ps: shined up all grounds to alt. , and ran a ground wire from alt. to battery with 10 ga. wire . ( on alt. box , it said 13 4011sw , not 213 4011sw ).

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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby tst » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:11 pm

Val, use a volt meter, you should have battery voltage at the wire that hooks up to the alternator to start with, if you do not you need to see where the loss is
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby coppersmythe » Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:08 pm

I should show 12v or so at the bat terminal on the alt , when I turn the on/off switch on , but not starting the tractor. i'll try it . thanks , coppersmythe .

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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:16 pm

I know this is a stupid question, but you did install a 12 volt battery didn't you?

Is this the diagram you used? If so do you have the diode installed with the band toward the alternator? Is the alternator you used compatible with a Delco 10SI that was used in this diagram?

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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby coppersmythe » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:15 am

morning john , no stupid questions when your over 50 :lol: ( now , were did I put that , fill in the blank ) . I didn't use that particular schematic, there is another one (here?) I used , I am beginning to think the voltmeter I bought was incorrect for this application. gonna sneak over to the shop this morning , before the 3 GRANDBABIES WAKE UP ( just did the 2 AM feeding for the 4 month old , cant go back to sleep ) :shock: :roll: . I used a delco single wire alt. , 12v battery , 10 gauge wire/connecters, all grounds clean . got some good advice on the phone last night , slow and steady . with y'alls help available , I'm not the least worried she'll be purring in no time :D . coppersmythe.............................PS: my kids went to a wedding out of town , THEY HAVE NOT MOVED BACK . :wink:
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby randallc » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:27 am

You got all three grand babies at your house.... Lucky you. Enjoy every minute and I know you do, cause the grow up just as quickly as the kids did. Does the voltmeter work or your other tractors.
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby coppersmythe » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:34 am

they are so much fun , I do miss having them around . the voltmeter is one of those underdash aftermarkets from the local chain parts store . I'm going to get a proper ampmeter for the dash today . I was typing the above unclear posts while the three were "burning" off some energy here in the living room :lol: coppersmythe............thanks for all the help guys, I need all the suggestions I can get

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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:51 am

Can you post a link to the diagram you used, that may help. I didn't find a different diagram.
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby Eugene » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:56 am

Multimeter from local hardware store, if you don't own one. Usually around $20-. If you are near a Harbor Freight they have some for under $5-.

Great for testing electrical circuits and continuity. Continuity, such as static timing the ignition.
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:08 am

Eugene wrote:Multimeter from local hardware store, if you don't own one. Usually around $20-. If you are near a Harbor Freight they have some for under $5-.

Great for testing electrical circuits and continuity. Continuity, such as static timing the ignition.
Walmart has them pretty cheap in their automotive section, usually in same area as trailer lights, etc.
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby brichter » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:20 am

How do you know the corks are original? Just asking. :?
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby brichter » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:23 am

:) Val, bring it to
buddy's this week and I'll have old "30 minute man" Tim take a look at it. :) :) :)
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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby Scrivet » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:31 am

brichter wrote:How do you know the corks are original? Just asking. :?
A good Cub guy (or gal) can do just like those snooty wine people do: you take your corkscrew and pull the cork out and sniff it! :lol: You do have a corkscrew in your toolbox right????? :wink: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby coppersmythe » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:45 am

B , gotta keep some of my secret techniques just that , secret :D coppersmythe.....................................PS: scrivet , shhhhhhhhh.

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Re: 12v conversion woes

Postby danovercash » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:21 pm

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