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White Cap White Paint

Postby 1950 Cub Demonstrator » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:16 pm

Where is the best place to purchase White Cap White paint for a restoration job?

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby Rob in NH » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:32 am

wa 8624 is a general motors color so any place that mix's auto paint can do it.
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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:22 am

Rob in NH wrote:wa 8624 is a general motors color so any place that mix's auto paint can do it.


Thanks, Rob. I'll be needing some, too.
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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby Super A » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:49 am

I'm a paint dummy but I'm trying to learn. Is it possible to get something mixed that does not require hardener?

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby Rob in NH » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:07 am

have them mix acrylic enamel, hardener is optional with that paint.
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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby 1950 Cub Demonstrator » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:18 am

Rob in NH wrote:wa 8624 is a general motors color so any place that mix's auto paint can do it.



Thanks Rob

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby Radec Aksarben » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:19 am

Just curious.
Why don't you want hardener?

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby 1950 Cub Demonstrator » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:17 am

I do want the hardener, I think someone else didn't want hardener but that doesn't make much sense? There must be a reason though.

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby Radec Aksarben » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:22 am

Yeah, I would use hardener too. My question was directed at member Super A. Sorry

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby 1950 Cub Demonstrator » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:02 am

No problem, I would like to hear what he was to say regarding that.

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:44 pm

probably for health reasons as the hardener is dangerous to use unless proper PPE is used with it.

I've used it to paint several tractors over the last 5 years and have had no problems aside mild asthma "flare-up" when used outside and wearing a charcoal paint respirator.
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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:33 pm

I can't find the post, but for years George Willer used hardener, most of the time with a face mask as I recall. Then one day he had breathing problems, and Dr. told him his painting days were over, anymore paint fumes of any kind could be fatal. Dr, said it was from all the years of painting.
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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby bob in CT » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:25 pm

AL Farmall Boy wrote:probably for health reasons as the hardener is dangerous to use unless proper PPE is used with it.

I've used it to paint several tractors over the last 5 years and have had no problems aside mild asthma "flare-up" when used outside and wearing a charcoal paint respirator.


A charcoal respirator will protect you for about 15 minutes worth of exposure to the odorless hardener. It will work longer for the solvents, so the bad news is one will be exposed to hardener long before you think it is time to change the cartridge based upon odor. The other bad news. Exposure to hardener is cumulative damage. The more you are exposed, the more damage is done. It never gets "better".

You can buy a remote breathing apparatus for a few hundred bucks with a pump, 50 feet of hose and a hood that dumps fresh air over your face. A lot cheaper than COPD. Chem-resistant gloves are a must too. Same damage from skin contact.

A set of charcoal canisters will protect you for about the time it takes to mix the paint. Use them for that, load the paint gun and toss them when you are cleaning up.

Lots of info on this on the web. Lots of horror stories too, of ruined lives.

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:18 pm

Here is a post I made last September on use of hardener. As I said then, I'm probably wasting my time posting this. Doesn't look like anyone payed attention then, why shoud I expect it now. If nothing else, read the posts from JGtools in the last linked thread.

Jim Becker wrote:
Jason (IL) wrote:Regardless of paint inside or out always have a mask with hardener.


I knew that some comment like this would show up eventually in this thread. I also know full well that this post is likely a total waste of my time as most of you will completely ignore it. I hope at least one person pays attention and thus takes the proper precautions.

I am tempted to say that using a mask as protection from hardener is a good way to die, except it is actually a fairly bad way to die. Rather than adding any more of my alarmist ramblings, I will let two survivors put it in their own words.

First, the effects of many years of repeated low exposures.

Here is one post with a warning:

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77584&#p621826

And three more posts that show why it is a good idea to pay attention to his warning:

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=82341

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=82341&start=30#p662576

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=85384

If the story on low level exposure isn't enough to get your attention, here is an example of a single higher level exposure. Be sure to read all the posts in the thread that were made by JGtools:

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39149

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Re: White Cap White Paint

Postby Super A » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:42 am

I was exploring my options. Given my druthers I had rather use hardener, but if I try to paint myself I won't be using it if I don't have a supplied air system. I hear some folks say "you'll be ok" but I'm not going to risk it.

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