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Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby evan price » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:20 am

Hi, just joined because I was looking for information.
A good friend of mine is the operations manager of a big salvage yard and we both like projects.
I traded him some scrap metal pound-for-pound for a Farmall Cub tractor.
It has a belly mower and a front end loader.
Unfortunately the engine is disassembled. I think all the parts are there in boxes.
My first Cub, I don't know what I got into but... have a few beers and next thing you know you own another tractor.

Is there a place to download a service manual?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby Barnyard » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:11 am

Hi Evan, welcome to the forum. You have come to the best place for Cub info. Near the top of this page you will see a link that says "PDF Manuals". Click on that and you will find the manual you need.

According to your zip code you are two and a half hours north of me. You may be interested in joining many of us forum members for our CubFest in May. Here is a link with more info on that www.barnyardbash.com
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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:18 am

Welcome to the forum. Barnyard has got you covered, attend a Cubfest and you won't regret it. :D

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby Smokeycub » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:31 am

Welcome to the best Cub site there is! Nice deal on your tractor! ...and with a loader? Post some pic's - we love pictures! As Bill says anything you need to know about the motor (or anything else) is in the manuals above and don't hesitate to ask questions, there are many knowledgeable folks here willing to help. You may want to get a second Cub for the mower if you plan to use the loader. The Cub Fests are a good way to learn a lot and get to meet some of the great folks from the site. Best of luck!
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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby challenger » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:22 pm

Welcome to the club! I'm not sure I would have started where you did, but one thing is for certain you have a great learning experience ahead of you. You may even rank as a Cub expert when you finish your project! As others have said, exercise discipline and start by first reading and re-reading the applicable manuals even if you have a background in mechanics. All machines are different and the Cub is no exception. One of the great features of this site is that most, if not all of the official written operating and mechanical reference material on the Cub is on-line and free. Browse around at the links at the top of the forum for a wealth of on-line information. The experts on the forum stand ready to address those special situations when you find yourself stumped.

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:36 pm

I would like to add, take LOTS of photos, for at least two reasons. First, so you can appreciate how much work you have done and others can admire your accomplishments. Second, those photos will be invaluable when it comes to reassembly. When I tackle a project, I photograph each step and keep the parts manual at hand, often using a photocopy so I don't get my manual all scuzzed up!

Have fun with your Cub, and I second the advice to go to Barnyard's Bash. Fun folks with tons of knowledge and eager to help you out with any of your problems.

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby baldwindiesel » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:35 pm

Evan:
I drove right through your town last Sunday for a plow day with my CUB in tow. I had the smallest tractor there. I'm less than an hour away . Good luck with your new CUB ! PICTURES PLEASE ! :{_}:

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby evan price » Sun May 31, 2015 8:47 pm

OK, just fetched the Cub home yesterday, it looks like it's going to be a bit more work than I thought. The engine is in pieces, and it looks like I didn't get everything. The valves, retainers, keepers, and springs are missing. It looks like there are multiple broken off head bolts in the block. My buddy was looking at it and said "I think I have one of those cylinder heads in my barn" and sure enough, he did, so he gave it to me. No idea if I need one or not at this time, all I did was drop the trailer in my driveway and haven't even unloaded it.

The good news is the crank turns over freely and the previous owner smeared grease all over the cylinders to prevent rust so that's OK. It rolled nice to load on the trailer.

Not sure of anything else.

Now I get to think about what I want to do with it. Do I want to try to drill out the broken head bolts or should I just find another engine?

Or maybe just part this Cub out would be better. Eh, it's not eating anything and I can let it sit out of the way while I think about it.

What's the opinion- worth fixing or should it be parted?

The snow plow is a spring trip unit that seems to be run by the hydraulics for the rockshaft. The mower looks to have been farm fabricated, it's a solid sheet of 1/4" steel with three blade pullies mounted to it. Some of the welds look amateur for sure but it is one heavy SOB.

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby tst » Sun May 31, 2015 9:06 pm

Nice Find, That is a IH C3 mower made for the cub, its a good mower, drill out the head bolts, welcome to the forum
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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby raystractors » Sun May 31, 2015 9:37 pm

That is a IH C3 mower made for the cub, its a good mower, drill out the head bolts, welcome to the forum


I'm with tst! I think that if you have the time, you would have a nice cub once you have worked through the problems that you have spoke of. This project will let you learn what makes a cub run, and once you have finished you will know what condition the engine is in, that will better than it ran when it was parked. Take your time and enjoy the work, then it want seem like work at all.

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun May 31, 2015 10:37 pm

I also agree that it's a worthwhile project and you will have a very usable tractor and mower when you're finished. GO FOR IT!! :D Stan

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby Steve Butram » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:03 am

Nice save :{_}:
just curious how much was it worth in Scrap.
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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:13 am

Steve Butram wrote:Nice save :{_}:
just curious how much was it worth in Scrap.

I reciently got a non-runner, regular FCub with no wheel weights, a complete Woods 42 mower and a plow similar to a 193 which all weighed in at just under 2000 lbs. Scrap price on the day of purchase was $6.00/hundred so my investment was $118. I was a happy cubber. :D

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Re: Just got my first Cub and it is a basket case

Postby evan price » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:23 am

Kind of a pain that while I got all the major parts- I think- stuff like the manifolds & carb, air cleaner, oil pan and side cover, cylinder head...
I don't have any of the valves or the parts like the keepers, retainers and springs. There isn't any hardware, and none of the head bolts to at least measure them out for new ones.
I have no idea why they tore it down to begin with. The pistons and cylinders look fine, the rod bearings are not looking bad. I can't see the mains being bad with good rods.

Kind of bugs me I didn't tear it apart, I guess that's the biggest complaint.

Well, time to start seeing what I can find in the used market for bits and pieces.

Looks like maybe 2-3 of the head bolts DIDN'T break off. Should be fun!
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