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Arthur Dent
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The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sun May 03, 2015 1:28 pm

It runs!!! :{_}:
I took the carburetor all apart last night and cleaned it all out. This morning I primed the oil pump, and after several cranks it started, and showed good oil pressure.
This is just the beginning though. The belt for the generator is gone, and the cover is missing from the regulator.
It is rather hard to start, and runs unevenly, but that could be due to the battery being low. I have the battery on the charger, and after a couple of hours will try it again.
I have not looked at the points yet, that could be an area of improvement.
The plugs all look good, except one looked oily. There is a fair amount of oil residue on the end of the muffler, we will see how bad it smokes once I get it running for any length of time.
I was so excited to actually get it started, I had to tell someone.
It will be an adventure getting the charging system going.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun May 03, 2015 1:31 pm

Congratulations, The sweet sound of success!!! I know the feeling. :D Stan

Arthur Dent
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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sun May 03, 2015 2:48 pm

What I failed to notice earlier, is that the carb float is half full of gas. No obvious pinholes, when inverted, gas seeps out from under the pivot tab. Looks like I need a new float.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Sun May 03, 2015 5:29 pm

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Mon May 04, 2015 9:20 am

Thanks Mike, I am putting together a laundry list for possible order as there are a few other things I could really use, like a new generator belt for instance.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Fri May 08, 2015 7:19 pm


It will now start reliably and run, though you as can see there are a few issues.
The governor needs work, as soon as it starts there is no throttle control at all.
The big issue is the smoke, of course. I knew it was an oil burner from the oil deposits at the end of the muffler, but I had really hoped that it wouldn't be this bad.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sat May 09, 2015 6:53 pm


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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sat May 09, 2015 7:51 pm

Actually, there is oil in the touch control reservoir, it was just low. I added some HyTran and tried it out and it worked fine. Then it started shooting oil out from where the top hydraulic line enters the manifold at the pump. Closer inspection revealed that someone had coated the area with what looks like JB Weld. Something else to fix.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sat May 09, 2015 8:32 pm

So the tubes just seal at the manifold with an o ring, yes? I should be able to pull the manifold off and replace the o rings? I'll have to clean up the ends of the tube of course. Is it that simple, or am I missing something?

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Scrivet » Sat May 09, 2015 8:49 pm

The "usual spot" for a leak is where the lines meet the thick flange that bolts onto the pump. Is your problem there or between the flange and pump (sealed with the o-rings)?

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sat May 09, 2015 8:53 pm

It's where the line enters the flange.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Scrivet » Sat May 09, 2015 9:14 pm

I have one, maybe two of my Cubs with braze there. I have seen may more. Time to take it off and find you somebody who can braze it. Definitely replace the O-rings and the gasket at the other end when you put it back together. And keep the fluid holes in the pump and TC block sealed up while you have it off for repairs.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sat May 09, 2015 9:25 pm

Oh, I see. I couldn't tell by looking through the manuals exactly how the tubes connected there. Thanks.

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1942 Farmall H
1945 Farmall H
2002 NH TC25D
Location: Southern Illinois

Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Arthur Dent » Sun May 10, 2015 8:32 am

I should have known that it couldn't be that easy. Still, it shouldn't be too difficult of a fix... as long as everything works ok once I get it back together.
I appreciate all you fellows helping out us new guys.

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Re: The new '57... the journey begins

Postby Scrivet » Sun May 10, 2015 10:09 am

Unbolt it from the pump and the TC and you're all set. I don't know exactly how the tubes originally connected (to the block that bolts to the pump) but that seems to be a high stress area and prone to cracking. When you go to put it back together double check that everything is clean, surfaces and inside the tubes. Get the bolts on the pump end started with the O-rings in place. Tighten it to finger tight so you still have a little give but the O-rings wont fall out, then get the TC end started with a new gasket and snug everything up good. Refill, burp the air, check the level again.


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