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Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby knucklebuster » Mon May 04, 2015 9:06 pm

For the first time, I have to split a cub (clutch set and rear seal). I made some splitting stands for the torque tube and have it all ready to unbolt and split. I'll be using an engine hoist on the motor and pulling the engine/front end away as a unit.

I want to bolt a short piece of chain to the engine; one end of the chain towards the front of the engine, and one end of the chain towards the back of engine.

Where is the best place to pull a bolt and attach the chain? I sure would like to pull a couple of head bolts, but I'm afraid of breaking them. Do you think I can get head bolts out successfully?

Or...

Should I consider another way to lift on the engine?

I know...I'm probably over thinking it, but I'd rather avoid expensive/time consuming/dangerous mistakes.
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon May 04, 2015 9:10 pm

Remember the engine will pivot on the front axle pin when you remove the bolts. Be prepared to stabilize it before splitting.

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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby knucklebuster » Mon May 04, 2015 9:18 pm

staninlowerAL wrote:Remember the engine will pivot on the front axle pin when you remove the bolts. Be prepared to stabilize it before splitting.



Yes, thanks Stan. I already have the oak wedges for the front axle too.

Stability is definitely a concern for me too when considering where to attach the chain
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby Bill Hudson » Mon May 04, 2015 9:18 pm

No matter how you lift/support the engine ---- wedge the front end to prevent tipping. Many people simply use a lifting strap/chain placed around the engine near the rear. A pair of splitting stands with caster wheels and height adjusting capability really simplify the process. The "How to" forum has several threads relative splitting a Cub. If this is your first time to split a Cub, spend some time reviewing those threads. You will find a lot of useful information there.

Good luck.

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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby knucklebuster » Mon May 04, 2015 9:31 pm

Bill Hudson wrote:No matter how you lift/support the engine ---- wedge the front end to prevent tipping. Many people simply use a lifting strap/chain placed around the engine near the rear. A pair of splitting stands with caster wheels and height adjusting capability really simplify the process. The "How to" forum has several threads relative splitting a Cub. If this is your first time to split a Cub, spend some time reviewing those threads. You will find a lot of useful information there.

Good luck.

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Thanks Bill. I have read every thread I could locate in the "how-to's" on splitting and splitting stands, but I'll check again to see if I missed anything about lifting or attaching points. I also have oak wedges for the front axle.

I have to remove the oil pan too, so I do not believe a strap under the engine is an option, correct?
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby Spuds Buddy » Mon May 04, 2015 9:46 pm

Bill, I live in Russellville Arkansas I have a good pair of splitting stands made out of trailer tongue dollies that I will be glad to loan you if that will help.

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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby knucklebuster » Mon May 04, 2015 9:58 pm

Spuds Buddy wrote:Bill, I live in Russellville Arkansas I have a good pair of splitting stands made out of trailer tongue dollies that I will be glad to loan you if that will help.


I appreciate that, very much! I think I have the stands covered though. I spent a couple of afternoons making up a decent stand. But, I just may take you up on that offer if it does not work out.
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby Gator809 » Tue May 05, 2015 1:45 am

I would use the starter mounting bolts to mount the rear of the chain, they're pretty beefy.

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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue May 05, 2015 12:57 pm

Bill, if you are not intending to remove the oil pan while it is on the hoist, simply use a couple of ratchet straps. one near the front and one near the rear to remove it. I have a leveler I use with mine that really works well.
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby Larry in WNY » Tue May 05, 2015 7:40 pm

You could install 5/8" I-Bolts on each side using implement attaching points and run the chain thru them.
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue May 05, 2015 8:58 pm

Larry in WNY wrote:You could install 5/8" I-Bolts on each side using implement attaching points and run the chain thru them.
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I believe he is only lifting the engine, not the torque tube.
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby knucklebuster » Tue May 05, 2015 9:16 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:
Larry in WNY wrote:You could install 5/8" I-Bolts on each side using implement attaching points and run the chain thru them.
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I believe he is only lifting the engine, not the torque tube.


John, thanks for the tips. Larry, John is correct, I am planning on lifting the engine and moving it forward with an engine hoist. Gator, thanks a bunch, I will attach one end to a starter bolt.
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Re: Finally splitting a cub, chain on engine?

Postby pickerandsinger » Wed May 06, 2015 5:01 am

I use a 6 foot nylon strap…( Horror Freight ) and I have a modified trailer jack stand (mine is a top operated with the handle removed and a socket taking its place permanently, to raise and lower its) that I bolt to the starter holes with a wheel on it….Of course the wedges…Just got a gantry though :{_}: so I have to amend some things…. :D
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