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Plow question

Postby Sailor » Wed May 06, 2015 3:43 pm

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Why do my plows have a mini-plow instead of the regular coulter (s) ? I haven't been able to find any information anywhere.

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Re: Plow question

Postby Don McCombs » Wed May 06, 2015 3:55 pm

What you have is a jointer. A jointer and a coulter are not interchangeable. Read this manual...

http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20 ... index.html
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Re: Plow question

Postby Bigdog » Wed May 06, 2015 4:57 pm

The jointer trims the top edge of the furrow to aid in turning the grass under. Used when plowing sod.
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Re: Plow question

Postby v w » Wed May 06, 2015 5:44 pm

You really need a coulter for all plowing in my opinion. We used to run the joiner next to the coulter. There was also a cover board which was run on top of the moldboard but with a much tighter curve meant to do the work of the joiner. The best I think was the old Lantz coulter (brand name not a type) which combined the coulter with what would look like a small disc plow in place of the joiner but I haven't seen one of them since about 1960. Around here moldboard plowing is seldom done any more and hasn't for a while. Vern

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Edit: This is the Lantz coulter. I found the picture on Tractor Shed.

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Re: Plow question

Postby Sailor » Wed May 06, 2015 7:13 pm

Don McCombs wrote:What you have is a jointer. A jointer and a coulter are not interchangeable. Read this manual...


I started reading that manual and quite reading it after the first few pages because I though that it didn't have anything on the jointer.

So Bigdog, after breaking the ground for the first time, can the jointer stay on and used after the garden is established? Or does it have to be replaced with a coulter?

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Re: Plow question

Postby Don McCombs » Wed May 06, 2015 7:40 pm

Sailor wrote:I started reading that manual and quite reading it after the first few pages because I though that it didn't have anything on the jointer.

Start reading on Page 15.
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Re: Plow question

Postby v w » Wed May 06, 2015 9:04 pm

Let me try again. It is not a question of a coulter OR a joiner. They are designed to be run at the same time.
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They can be run as a unit under all plowing conditions. There are people that say they don't use one or the other at times and I will not disagree with them. To each his own but since there is no reason not to use both why not? I started plowing many years ago and IMHO you will get a much better coverage of the trash you are trying to plow under using both. The coulter will cut stems, stalks and the joiner will throw them from the landside edge to the bottom of the furrow. If you don't need more than a half inch of soil on the trash don't use a joiner. If a ragged furrow doesn't bother you don't use a coulter. Just my very strong opinion. Vern

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Re: Plow question

Postby Bigdog » Wed May 06, 2015 9:33 pm

As mentioned - the two are not interchangeable but can be run simultaneously and most often are (if you have a jointer) I see no need to remove it for plowing previously turned ground. I prefer running a plow with a coulter because it gives you a clean sidewall to the furrow. Not absolutely necessary unless you are in vines or tall grass that will build up on the plow beam.
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Re: Plow question

Postby Winfield Dave » Thu May 07, 2015 7:24 am

Our family Cub used only a jointer for decades from the day it was bought in 1950.
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Re: Plow question

Postby bob in CT » Thu May 07, 2015 7:40 am

If you have rocks, a colter can ride your plow right up, but I still use it even though I run into a lot of "footballs" every year. I just plowed some sod for a neighbor and he did not have much topsoil. The combination of all three peeled off the sod in perfect strips like it came from a sod farm. It was a marvel to watch. The subsoil was right underneath and the plow rode on it like it was concrete.

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Re: Plow question

Postby Sailor » Thu May 07, 2015 1:15 pm

Thanks for all the helpful tips.
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