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Serial Number Question

Postby NCcubman » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:19 pm

Hey Cub folks,

I was wondering if you knew if IH ever skipped numbers in the serial count for the Cubs, particularly when transitioning to new sheet metal upgrades like in 1954, 1958, and so on. For example, the first 4-bar grill Cub in 1958 was serial number 210,001. Does that mean the last 11-bar Cub (Chrome emblems) was serial number 210,000 or was there a gap of Cubs that were skipped so that they could start the new body style at a nice, round number? I appreciate any info. Love the site and all the gurus that share so much knowledge. Hope ya'll are having a great one.

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Re: Serial Number Question

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:36 pm

Raymond's database makes a couple of references to SN skips, not much detailed info.

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Re: Serial Number Question

Postby Trent M » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:39 pm

Definitely check the database. When I first put it all together, I included all of the info I could glean from part manuals, WHS, Jim Becker, etc.
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Re: Serial Number Question

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:51 pm

There were definitely skips. If you check the database you will find 4 notations of skips (just in the Farmall Cub part). Two of them are confirmed and the other two are noted with a question mark. There were other individual or small blocks that got scrapped on occasion. Several are noted in the database. Some of this can be found in the Louisville serial number lists in the WHS archives.

On your specific example, the last 11-bar grill Cub was 205,808 and the first 4-bar Cub was 210,001. The numbers between were skipped.

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Re: Serial Number Question

Postby NCcubman » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:42 am

Hey folks,

Thank ya'll so much for the info! The database is great. How have I missed this?

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Re: Serial Number Question

Postby wjw777 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:47 pm

Hello.
I just bought my first tractor last sunday no serial number plate is there a way I can tell the year it was made and any other things I should know. buying parts will be a problem without knowing the year. it has the four bar grill in front and the exhaust goes under the seat or there abouts. thanks Walt

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Re: Serial Number Question

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:52 pm

http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_001.htm

Use the casting date part of the page.
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Re: Serial Number Question

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:28 pm

For buying parts, don't worry about the year. Most engine parts are identified relative to the engine number which is stamped into the engine block near the carburetor. Most other parts that changed are obvious from appearance. A few transmission parts may not be all that obvious, but can be identified if you check details in the parts catalog (available from PDF manuals link above). If somebody in a parts store just HAS TO HAVE a year to look something up, just pick a year. 1962 is good, somewhere in the middle and matches the description you have given.


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