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Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Michcub » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:22 am

I got roped into pulling a small trailer that has a 2" ball receiver on it this weekend with my cub. I only have the quick hitch for implements on my cub. I do not see myself being able to obtain a drawbar and brackets, then removing everything, to install the drawbar. Is there anything that slides into the quick hitch, and possibly bolted on trough the hole under the quick hitch, that I could install a ball on? I could possibly have something fabricated for me if someone has an idea. This is a slow speed parade type application. Thank you!

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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby mva1958 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:40 am

You need a fast hitch pull bar extension, if you search google you'll find some vendors that carry them. Ebay is another possibility and you might want to post a wtb in the Vine section. JP Tractor Salvage (link at the bottom of this page) is another possible source.
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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby dgrapes59 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:48 am

Welcome to the Forum!

They made a part but it is a little hard to find and likely won't before this weekend, but for reference:

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Picture courtesy of TM Tractor

It has a pin that can be removed and the bracket flips around for storage while using the Fast Hitch.
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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Barnyard » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:52 am

Can't help with the hitch, but I would like to comment on the trailer. Keep in mind the Cub has very limited braking capacity. Don't try to pull too big of a trailer to avoid potential problems. If there are any hills in your route be sure you use a lot of care.
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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Trent M » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:10 am

I have a fabricated pullbar extension that came with a Cub I purchased. It doesn't look like its too difficult to make. You need the 2 plates that go on the outside of the fast hitch point receiver with holes for the bolt/pin They don't need the angles, rectangular pieces will be just fine. These 2 plates are welded to the extended plate with a hole for the ball. Voila!!
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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Xperimental » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:19 pm

I have a farm fabricated fast hitch drawbar. It has a fabricated fast hitch point and locks into the hitch like all the other fast hitch implements. I keep a ball on it to pull my wood splitter and it works very well. I second Barnyard's comment above about the Cub's braking capacity. The Cub's brakes are limited.

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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Glen » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:10 pm

Hi,
Welcome to the website. If you find a pull bar extension to use the trailer with, if your trailer has 2 wheels and is balanced when hooked on the Cub, or has not much weight on the trailer front end, the Fast Hitch can raise up. To stop this from happening, move the collar on the Fast Hitch lift rod all the way to the rear, as far as it will go on the round bar, and tighten it in place.
Here is a page from a Cub owner's manual showing it. It is called the Stop Collar in the pic. It is not all the way to the rear in the pic.
It also shows the pull bar extension turned ahead. If you put a hitch ball on it, you can't turn it ahead, just remove the pull bar extension and store it, or remove the ball.
Click on the pic makes it bigger. :)

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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Trent M » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:23 pm

Here are some pics of the one I was talking about. I was wrong about the rectangular pieces, but it still doesn't look too hard to make. I put it next to an original for comparison.

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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Trent M » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:47 pm

A member PM'd me saying he thought the one I thought was home-made might be an original part. Anyone else ever seen one like it?
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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Glen » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:14 am

Hi,
Trent M, the pull bar extension on the first Fast Hitches, 1955, looked like the one in your pics. I don't know how long they were used, I guess the other one is cast, it is newer, I don't know when they were first used.
I have the first style, it is almost like your pics, but I think someone might have made yours, but it is very close to the same, I'm not sure, it looks about the same.
Look at my other post above there is a pic from the 1955 Cub owner's manual showing it some.

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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby tmays » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:39 am

Here's a pic of my early one
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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby dgrapes59 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:52 am

Well I learned something as well!

I have a "cast" one, but think I will make one for the other FH as that looks simple enough. :big afro:
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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Trent M » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:48 am

Glen wrote:Hi,
Trent M, the pull bar extension on the first Fast Hitches, 1955, looked like the one in your pics. I don't know how long they were used, I guess the other one is cast, it is newer, I don't know when they were first used.
I have the first style, it is almost like your pics, but I think someone might have made yours, but it is very close to the same, I'm not sure, it looks about the same.
Look at my other post above there is a pic from the 1955 Cub owner's manual showing it some.


Indeed, you are right! I had never noticed. I always just assumed mine was a home-made job. That's it in the manual, just turned around in the stored position.

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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Barnyard » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:18 am

I picked this one up for $3.00 at a flea market. It was in a box mixed with all kinds of odds and ends. The seller had no idea what it was and I just thought it was a home made hitch and wasn't sure if it would fit a Cub. I figured for the price it was worth the risk. It may be home made, but this thread has me wondering. There aren't any markings on it.

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Re: Need to pull a trailer with cub-help.

Postby Michcub » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:09 pm

Thank you everyone for all of the help. It was extremely useful. I think we are going to fabricate something very similar. We are going to try to weld a class I or III receiver tube to the bottom of it though. That way I can adjust the height of the ball using different sized receiver hitches. My quick hitch does not really lower far enough (evenly) to accommodate the trailer I will pull. It is made out of an old pop up camper.


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