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Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Lorisfarmer » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:48 am

Hi all,

I bought an IH 193 right hand plow for my Cub last summer that I intend restoring this fall. I've been having a really hard time identifying the moldboard on it though - it's not the normal one seen in most all pictures on Google Images, I finally found a really nice and really knowledgeable guy who runs a business up in Salem, Ohio (Steve at http://www.ploworx.com/ - thanks again Steve!) who was able to identify the cast mold board as a CP 6008, made by the Chattanooga Plow Company. I'm attaching a couple of pictures. It's fit with a DS share. Here's my question: Does anyone have any idea what the color of this plow should be? I know the 193 should be IH Blue, but I was wondering does that include the moldboard? I guess I wasted my money buying a new "Heavy Duty Super Chief X Series" decal for the moldboard!
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Moldboard # CP 6008a.jpg
Notice the ribbed back of the moldboard
IH 193 with Chattanooga Plow Moldboarda.jpg
Right side of IH 193
DSC06870a.jpg
IH 193 Plow ith Oliver Disc in background
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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Bigdog » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:45 am

All blue.
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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:18 am

The stamped tag (which is often missing) is the actual ID of the bottom. It shows "BA9R12".
BA - Chilled bottom - General purpose bottom for use in abrasive and stony soils.
9 - Regular share (chilled)
R - Right-hand bottom, w/long landside and replaceable heel
12 - size of bottom

Chattanooga Plow Company was part of IH.

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:37 pm

So does that mean that this is likely the original moldboard on this plow?

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:43 pm

Matt Kirsch wrote:So does that mean that this is likely the original moldboard on this plow?

If I'd replaced the moldboard, I would have put the tag back on. I don't know how many others would do the same. Some of the tags were a shape that was more easily damaged by accident than this particular style.

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Lorisfarmer » Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:48 pm

Terrific information from all of ya'll! GREAT detailed info from Jim Becker, thanks! And Bigdog - it will be All Blue. Soon as it cools down a bit in the barn, I'll start disassembly and painting. Pictures when I'm done. Thanks again to everyone!

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:15 pm

Lorisfarmer wrote:. . . it will be All Blue. . . .

Oh, yeah, the front face of the bottom and the disk of the colter were originally not painted, covered with varnish. The varnish was to be removed before use. People now use a variety of coatings to make them look polished or whatever is desired. I usually just hit those surfaces with spray wax, plow coat or whatever I have on hand that seems reasonable.

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Scrivet » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:18 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
Matt Kirsch wrote:So does that mean that this is likely the original moldboard on this plow?

If I'd replaced the moldboard, I would have put the tag back on. I don't know how many others would do the same. Some of the tags were a shape that was more easily damaged by accident than this particular style.

If I had replaced the moldboard I would of had a "useless" tag left over. :oops:
Then again when I get a new shirt I cut the tags off. I guess I'll have to check Jim and see if he still has the tags on his at Cub-arama. :D :wink: :lol:

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:23 pm

Scrivet wrote:. . . check Jim and see if he still has the tags on his . . .

shirt or plow bottom?

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Lorisfarmer » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:00 am

Thanks, Jim! I'm going to spray the face with a clear lacquer or clearcoat after is stripped and polished. Another question though: The beam would still have the McCormick decal and the "CUB 193" stenciling, right?

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Scrivet » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:27 am

Jim Becker wrote:
Scrivet wrote:. . . check Jim and see if he still has the tags on his . . .

shirt or plow bottom?
Oh, most definitely shirt. You already told us you leave the tags on the plow :D . I just want to check if you go all Minnie Pearl on us and leave the tags on everything or just your plows :D :lol:

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:46 am

Lorisfarmer wrote:Another question though: The beam would still have the McCormick decal and the "CUB 193" stenciling, right?


The side chain was added in 1951. Yours doesn't have it, so was built 1947-1950. The Decal was "McCormick-Deering" until mid/late 1949, then changed to "McCormick". So it is your call on which version of the decal to use. Yes on the stenciling.

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:49 am

Scrivet wrote:
Jim Becker wrote:
Scrivet wrote:. . . check Jim and see if he still has the tags on his . . .

shirt or plow bottom?
Oh, most definitely shirt. You already told us you leave the tags on the plow :D . I just want to check if you go all Minnie Pearl on us and leave the tags on everything or just your plows :D :lol:

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Clip » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:55 pm

Lorisfarmer wrote:Thanks, Jim! I'm going to spray the face with a clear lacquer or clearcoat after is stripped and polished. Another question though: The beam would still have the McCormick decal and the "CUB 193" stenciling, right?

Jim


If you're going to use it why not coat the face with a lubricant or rust preventative of some sort? I would think the land polish would wear the clear away and you'd have to reapply the next time anyway, so a thin coat of oil or grease would be easier and cheaper to maintain. I've considered using Tuf-Glide but have just settled on wire wheeling and a little buffing before each use.

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Re: Cub IH 193 Plow Moldboard question

Postby Lorisfarmer » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:25 am

Probably a smarter solution. I remember when I was a kid on a farm in Rockford, Iowa, my chore after plowing was to slop "recycled" oil and grease on the plows and spring rakes for the winter. Not terribly earth friendly by modern standards, but that was in 1958! And it worked fine.
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