1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

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1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Bhaeck » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:41 pm

okay will put pictures in here of the cub as I get them for now have only ones of the cub being carried by the ford!

As I see it my plan is

Get it running to see if rear end and engine are good, seems a lot are saying need to test compression before firing? it turns over but fuel pours out the carb and shows signs of gasket issues in carb so planned to rebuild carb then see if it fires and drive it a bit.

After it runs if all is ok will tear it apart and blast paint and replace all gaskets and fluids... Assuming this is best plan?

'Then tin work paint and done... wow that seems easy should be done in a week or two... ya right.

Any things I need to focus on? checking brakes clutch ... how about gears?

I have looked through the service manual some and wow great piece of information. I have some mechanical skills and my neighbor, who is about the best neighbor you would ask for, is great with engines so have some help in my corner. The wife knows body work for the small tin work needing done and well suppose now is as good a time as any to learn to paint.
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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Clip » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:35 pm

Just wanted to say that's an impressive feat fitting it into the truck bed. Always heard it could be done but I've never seen it.

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby danovercash » Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:13 pm

Be very careful with sandblasting and pressure washing. You can easily get grit and water where you don't want it! Dont ask how some of us know this, my choice is water carried sandblaster (hydro blaster).keep pressure washer away from radiator, seals and gaskets.
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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Bhaeck » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:53 pm

Is it a bad idea or too expensive to re do all gaskets save the motor if it don't need redoing?

And it was a shortbox to boot was a bit worried about the weight on the tail gate and driving in rain felt way too ... Well like I was nearly hydro planing all the time. It's definitely the limit I wouldn't want to push no farther

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Jackman » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:51 pm

The weight was not on the tail gate it was solidly on those two little cables that hold the tail gate up :roll: not smart sorry but that was lame.

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Bhaeck » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:16 pm

Eh I lived and so did the tailgate with the straps I had holding the rear in i don't think it would of turned life threatening but sure it would of been a bad day. Anyhow did the compression test got 90 first go almost equally on all second time out a bit of oil in and got 120 on all but one closest to rear that was only 110

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Bhaeck » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:28 pm

So looks like I have a 6v generator remy 100401? With a 12v battery runing the 6v coil and points? Wouldn't it be best to make the switch now to alt and newer easier to get distributor ? Any easy to swap kits available? Or is there a good reason to keep old setup? I think the coil is shot and auto zone is zero help...
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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:17 pm

Bhaeck wrote:Eh I lived and so did the tailgate with the straps I had holding the rear in i don't think it would of turned life threatening but sure it would of been a bad day.

I think that would have been slim consolation for the driver behind you.
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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Eugene » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:55 pm

Bhaeck wrote:Is it a bad idea or too expensive to re do all gaskets save the motor if it don't need redoing?
I would only replace leaking gaskets, as time and money permits or in conjunction with other repairs.

Bhaeck wrote:Wouldn't it be best to make the switch now to alt and newer easier to get distributor ? Any easy to swap kits available? Or is there a good reason to keep old setup?
Use the search function, top of page. Lot of discussion on installing an alternator or keeping the 6 volt system.

If you decide on the alternator. Select a single wire alternator. Single wire alternator greatly simplifies tractor wiring.
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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Glen » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:36 pm

Hi,
Nice looking LoBoy. You left out a 1 in the generator number. They had a 1100401 generator, the Cub parts book says it is 12 volts. Cubs had 12 volt generators for years when they changed to 12 volts. A 1966 LoBoy was originally 12 volts, maybe you knew.
For originality, it's better to leave it like it is, just repair the gen and regulator and wiring so it works right. But it's your choice what to do with it.
I don't know what you mean about the distributor, it has an IH Battery Ignition Unit now, which is the distributor. It has the older style of coil, with the wires at opposite ends.
Case IH had or has a service package with the newer style of coil, all the wire connections on the same end, and a bracket to fit, they are bigger diameter than the old coil. The part number is or was, 396547R93 for the 12 volt coil.
110 - 120 for the compression is very good. The experts on here have said 120 is as high as they get.
A LoBoy is not called a Farmall, they just use the name International LoBoy. Hope this helps. :)

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:38 pm

Agree with Glenn, you probably have a 12v system already and if you want to keep it original, then repair it. On the other hand, if the system is not functioning, you can convert to a 1 wire alternator like Eugene recommended for less cost that replacing the generator/regulator. Look at the HOW TO FORUM, electrical, for several conversion threads that will give you a step by step instructions and tips. The compression numbers look good. If this was my tractor, I would get it running well, then do an assessment as to what your objectives are for using it and do the service and repairs/upgrades accordingly. Just my 2 cents worth. Stan

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Bhaeck » Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:01 pm

Not really up to arguing the safety of my transport means but I had 3 1.5 ton ratchet straps on rear end the driver behind me was in no danger.


Anyhow tons of good info so really I have a 12v system with points not electronic distributor? So maybe I just have a bum coil. I will do some searching and get a new coil coming might of hit it with pressure washer to much it's getting very hot trying to use it and don't seem to be sparking as I would think it should. Time to call those site sponsors and buy stuff. Definitely need new plug wires.

My plan is to paint it and use it once I know I'm gtg mechanically. Not show but clean. Was questioning new gaskets to save on leakage on new paint job but not a huge deal I don't mind if it looks useful :).

Thanks a ton for the helpful start I never new generators came 12v I'm all for saving that

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:35 am

NAPA has the 12v Coils with Internal Resistors, about $35 last week when I bought one for my neighbor. Thought they were cheaper, but it's been a few years since I bought mine.

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:40 am

Dale Finch wrote:NAPA has the 12v Coils with Internal Resistors, about $35 last week when I bought one for my neighbor. Thought they were cheaper, but it's been a few years since I bought mine.

It probably won't look like the one you have but will work the same.

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Re: 1966 Farmall Lo Boy restoration #1

Postby Bhaeck » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:10 am

Happen to have a part number?


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