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Water In Transmission ?

Postby kajun » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:31 pm

Gents:

The thread below on "Leaking Transmission Seal " provokes this question . What is the means of water getting in the transmission from rain -- is it through the gear shift lever ? Is there something to prevent that other than the Gear Shift Lever Shield [ Pt No. 350882R1 ] ? Rudi's Manual { TC 37D doesn't seem to show anything else } .

Any help or guidance will be appreciated.

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:00 pm

IMHO, Yes, prolonged weather exposure and condensate from temp changes. Best prevention is keep it under a shed when not in use or at least cover the shifter with a large bucket. Stan

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:04 pm

You are correct about the shift tower being a source of water in the transmission. The best course of action is to keep the tractor inside, or at least under cover. This does not eliminate the problem altogether, however. Condensation can form on the inside of the transmission case as temperature and humidity levels rise and fall. If you can't keep it under cover, store it with a five gallon bucket over the shift lever and change the gear lube every couple of years.

Edit: Stan types faster than I do. :D
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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby kajun » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:04 pm

And , gents , I looked in later Manual { TC 37 - Chassis - Page 144 } and I still don't see anything .

Here is Link:

http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20Parts%20Manuals/TC-37F%20Revision%202%20(09-70)//Chassis/Page-144.jpg

Think I am getting water -- so I would appreciate guidance .

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby kajun » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:11 pm

I'm laughing guys , not at you but at myself.

You would have to see my place -- buckets and big-dog-food bags are in bountiful use . My shed is open and subject to blowing rain .

Well what is one more bucket ? :)

Thanks for the guidance !!!! And happy TG .

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby Puffie40 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:11 am

For weatherproofing, one idea would be to put a rubber boot of some kind on the gear shift. A CV boot for an ATV might work...

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:23 am

Took me a while to find this. But, with Barnyard's help, I did. If you want to solve the water infiltration problem at the shifter tower, here's a better solution than the bucket...

http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Mainte ... vement.htm
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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby kajun » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:30 am

Thanks , Puffie . Good idea.

And Don ,thanks to you and Barnyard . What a quality retrofit !!! Do appreciate your efforts in finding the piece on retrofit .

Best to all.

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:00 pm

IH added an o-ring to help keep water out. You can see it on the page kajun pointed at above. It is reference 24.

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From the drawing, you can't tell where it belongs. They evidently put it between #5 and the lower #6. It is a 1/2x5/8x1/16 o-ring

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby kajun » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:19 pm

Thanks , Jim Becker . Bucket or o-ring ? Guess I will go with the more sophisticated .

And thanks and Happy TG to all.

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby Scrivet » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:03 am

kajun wrote:...... . Bucket or o-ring ? ..........

There is another option I saw at a show a couple months ago.
This is on a VAC Case, but I'm sure somebody makes one to fit a Cub. :D :lol:

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby bob in CT » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:42 am

Condensation is a bigger source than I think is being given credit as people that keep their tractors under cover in unheated space have water buildup too. Unlike an engine, that get hot enough when given a good long run, the transmission never gets hot enough to drive the moisture off when the tractor is used. Anything that condenses in the gearbox stays in the gearbox until you drain the oil. Lubes like Hytran are engineered to "hold" moisture up to a point and give better lube protection, whereas gear oil and water do not mix.

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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:45 am

I have 2 cubs that set in an insulated unheated shed, but I will see water in the floor and tools will be wet 3 or 4 times a year due to rapid temperature and humidity changes.. They are never left out in the rain and get pressure washed a couple times a year, but I am careful about keeping the spray away from the shifter. The one I use to grade the road and push snow, light work, etc. needs the oil changed every year, and actually gets it changed every couple years. The one that does the harder work, such as plowing several gardens and tilling them, is good for 3 or 4 years, but doing the hard work the transmissions gets pretty warm.
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Re: Water In Transmission ?

Postby kajun » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:06 am

Love the Scrivet-find -- this matches my approach . :lol: :D

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