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Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby nicolascub » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:01 pm

Hello, i already read all the information about the woods 42 and woods 59, but i am still a little indecisive about wich one to buy..
I want to cut normal grass some times a bit taller, like 30 centimeters in a hilly area. I live in the mountains, like 800 meter above sea level.
I will import one to Argentina so i can put to work the cub!
The price are 900 for the woods 42 and 650 us for the woods 59c2. Both of them look very nice.
The 42 does not have tyres..

What you think??

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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:37 pm

I have a Woods 42 mower mounted on a standard Cub. It does well on grass about 8 inches (20 centimeters) tall. Much taller than 8 inches is difficult involving multiple cuts, highest mower setting first pass then lower on second pass.

Must explain that I have predominately fescue grass, which is tough. The livestock (cattle) eat it and it's a great pasture grass.

I also have an IH 3260 (60 inch) mower mounted on a 154 numbered Cub low-boy with creeper gear. This mower will not handle fescue any taller than 8 inches.

Based on my experience I would recommend the 42 inch deck. Make sure you get the idlers and their mounting brackets if you purchase this mower.

I mow the pasture once or twice a year using a 30 hp farm tractor and pull type rotary mower when the grass is 3 feet (91 centimeters) or more tall. Neither of my Cubs will handle that much grass.

Edit: I have a small seep/damp spot in the lower portion of the acreage. Not sure what type of grass grows there but neither Cub is capable of cutting the grass when the ground is damp. Not even taking partial width cuts. Have to wait for the ground to dry and the grass to die off before mowing the spot.

Type of grass you are mowing will affect the mowers performance.
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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:55 am

I believe the 59 inch cut mower will be a bit too much for your cub to handle in the type grass you described. The 59 inch mower is generally considered a "lawn mower" type attachment. As previously stated, just be sure you get all the attachment brackets and parts. Good Luck, Stan

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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby bythepond88 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:08 pm

Ditto on the recommendation for the 42, given what you want to do. A Cub with a 59 inch deck will not be able to cut 30 cm grass, even in multiple passes with partial cuts. My Eddie, wearing a 59, would barely cut 6 inch grass, and I had to do partial cuts with two passes in first gear.

Curious that the 42 inch (smaller) deck is more expensive than the 59.
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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby tmays » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:51 pm

Agree with the guys that the 42 would best suit you. With that said, do you know the person you're buying from? Or have someone to inspect the mowers? Personally, I wouldn't pay 900 for the 42. Yes, they are expensive when new. And this mower looks to be in decent shape. But you need to know condition of bearings. Also, is that a rust through hole on front of mower? I can't tell looking at it on my phone. That does not bode well for a $900 mower.
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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby CharlieK » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:01 pm

those 42" woods mowers costs more than $900 new and in MMHO that particular one was the best 42 woods made---900 is more than I would pay for it though
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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby indy61 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:12 pm

Hope it's not too steep, I bet it's not easy to jump off a Farmall Cub when it's turning over.

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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:46 pm

indy61 wrote:I bet it's not easy to jump off a Farmall Cub when it's turning over.

It really isn't.
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=31823&p=252088

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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby Eugene » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:09 pm

Have you thought about a sickle bar mower for your Cub? Is one available near your location?

There is a Woods dealership in Argentina. Have you tried them?

I read the ad in the Vine. Have to consider the purchase price, packaging for shipping cost, freight expenses, for one bought in the USA. Expensive.
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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby nicolascub » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:55 pm

Eugene wrote:I have a Woods 42 mower mounted on a standard Cub. It does well on grass about 8 inches (20 centimeters) tall. Much taller than 8 inches is difficult involving multiple cuts, highest mower setting first pass then lower on second pass.

Must explain that I have predominately fescue grass, which is tough. The livestock (cattle) eat it and it's a great pasture grass.

I also have an IH 3260 (60 inch) mower mounted on a 154 numbered Cub low-boy with creeper gear. This mower will not handle fescue any taller than 8 inches.

Based on my experience I would recommend the 42 inch deck. Make sure you get the idlers and their mounting brackets if you purchase this mower.

I mow the pasture once or twice a year using a 30 hp farm tractor and pull type rotary mower when the grass is 3 feet (91 centimeters) or more tall. Neither of my Cubs will handle that much grass.

Edit: I have a small seep/damp spot in the lower portion of the acreage. Not sure what type of grass grows there but neither Cub is capable of cutting the grass when the ground is damp. Not even taking partial width cuts. Have to wait for the ground to dry and the grass to die off before mowing the spot.

Type of grass you are mowing will affect the mowers performance.


Thanks very much Eugene! i will try to get a 42, or repair a sickle mower that came with the tractor but it will take some time and i dont know how good it is for lawn mowing.
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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby nicolascub » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:00 pm

tmays wrote:Agree with the guys that the 42 would best suit you. With that said, do you know the person you're buying from? Or have someone to inspect the mowers? Personally, I wouldn't pay 900 for the 42. Yes, they are expensive when new. And this mower looks to be in decent shape. But you need to know condition of bearings. Also, is that a rust through hole on front of mower? I can't tell looking at it on my phone. That does not bode well for a $900 mower.


I started to look up in the web, also contacted some woods dealers in USA. The 42 is being sell by a woods dealer in Illinois, he is asking 1000 dolars but i can make an offer. Of course that i have to find a company that ship the mower to some port, and then another company that pack in a shared container. it will be expensive, and i have to find out how much..

Do you think there are many 42 in very nice shape around to buy??

Have in mind that a chinese mower for a 30hp tractor here cost around 2500us.. is much more expensive Argentina. :(

Thank for the help

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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby nicolascub » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:06 pm

Eugene wrote:Have you thought about a sickle bar mower for your Cub? Is one available near your location?

There is a Woods dealership in Argentina. Have you tried them?

I read the ad in the Vine. Have to consider the purchase price, packaging for shipping cost, freight expenses, for one bought in the USA. Expensive.


Eugene i have not tried the dealer in Argentina, but woods dont make any more the 42.. And it will be very expensive to buy one here.

Probably i will have to pay like 500 us to import one. i should try to find a mower around 300 -600 us..

I have a sickle mower that came with the cub, also a plow.. the sickle bar is not working but all the parts are there i think, i could restore it.. is good for mowing? what do you think? i could spend little money and make it work..

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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby Eugene » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:39 pm

nicolascub wrote:I have a sickle mower that came with the cub, also a plow.. the sickle bar is not working but all the parts are there i think, i could restore it.. is good for mowing? what do you think? i could spend little money and make it work..
Sickle bar mowers were designed to mow taller grass/hay and would be excellent for mowing pastures and infrequently mowed areas. The mowing result will not be as nice as a lawn mower, but they will easily handle grass much taller than can be mowed with a Cub mounted rotary mower.

Recommend you put the sickle bar mower in working condition and use it. Repairs will be considerably less expensive than purchasing and shipping a mower from the USA. Common parts are still available for the mower from implement dealers. If you have a broken or not locally available parts it/they can be obtained and shipped. The pitman stick is something frequently broken but you can manufacture one yourself.
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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby Teakettle » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:24 pm

woods dont make any more the 42


I'm not sure that's true. Woods' Web site still lists it (on the page of finish mowers). But I'm sure a brand new one is rather expensive.

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Re: Woods 42 or 59-C2 , help here.

Postby Eugene » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:47 am

Nicholas:

Unless there is a written warranty or the item is falsely advertised, most used items sold in the USA are "as is where is". That means if you purchase a used mower from the USA and upon its arrival you find out that it needs parts replaced, repaired, damaged, or missing, you are out of luck. You have no legal recourse.
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