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Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby Sailor » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:23 pm

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Having never seen anything like this before, I can't tell if the seal and felt washer are in good shape or not. I guess the smart thing would be to just replace them.

TM didn't have any, is this a dealer item?

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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:53 pm

Steering / Front Axle International Ordering Home

Stock# ST592
Price: $ 26.60 each


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Item description: front wheel oil seal, original part, 358833R91, new, National Brand, replaces 350769R91
For use with:
McCormick Farmall Cub, 1947 - 1964
International Cub, 1964 - 1979
International Cub Lo-Boy, 1955 - 1968

Not for use with:
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International Cub 185 Lo-Boy, 1974 - 1976
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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:54 pm

ScottyD'sdad wrote:Steering / Front Axle International Ordering Home

Stock# ST592
Price: $ 26.60 each


Quantity:


Item description: front wheel oil seal, original part, 358833R91, new, National Brand, replaces 350769R91
For use with:
McCormick Farmall Cub, 1947 - 1964
International Cub, 1964 - 1979
International Cub Lo-Boy, 1955 - 1968
From TM website.
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International Cub 154 Lo-Boy, 1968 - 1974
International Cub 185 Lo-Boy, 1974 - 1976
International 184 Lo-Boy, 1977 - 1980
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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:54 pm

Above from TM website.
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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby Sailor » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:01 pm

Thanks, I guess I overlooked it.

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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:35 pm

if you are not familiar with them, that is what I call an inside out seal. That seal is stationary on the shaft and the wiping sealing area runs on the inside edge of the hub as I remember.
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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby itpdk9 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:15 pm

They are a pain to work on. At least my experience was. Good Luck
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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby Sailor » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:26 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:if you are not familiar with them, that is what I call an inside out seal. That seal is stationary on the shaft and the wiping sealing area runs on the inside edge of the hub as I remember.

That's what I was thinking, John. There was some seepage behind the hub so I'm just going to replace them. Now all I have to do is figure how to seat them on the shaft without doing some damage to the seal.

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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby Scrivet » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:06 am

Sailor wrote:There was some seepage behind the hub so I'm just going to replace them. Now all I have to do is figure how to seat them on the shaft without doing some damage to the seal.

Any ideas?
Yeah this is the opposite of the TOB in my opinion. What I suspect is seeping is the "cheap" wheel bearing grease is breaking down and leaching the oil out just like you want on a TOB. Clean all the old grease off good repack with hi-temp red and sticky disc brake grease that doesn't break down (which you don't want in your TOB) and button her up. No more oil seepage, no worry about how to get the seal off, no worry about how damaging the shaft.

I personally would just wipe off the area with a rag and go on and wouldn't be to concerned until it got to where it was seeping so that I had to wipe every time I went by. I don't think that's going to happen, there's not that much grease to supply that much oil. Change and repack it during your regularly scheduled maintenance.

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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby Sailor » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:47 am

Since the hub was packed full of grease I suspect you are correct on all counts. But Plane A is already in effect, I removed the seal already and damaged it in the process.

The deciding factor, to start from a bare shaft, was finding were someone had used a nail, instead of a cotter key, to retain the castle nut. I didn't want to spend 18-24 months restoring my Cub and have a seal leaking because I didn't have the knowledge to know if the old seal was "good enough".

All is well, I ordered new ones form TM and they will be here on Monday . If the weather holds, it's 62 here today, I'll have the front end completed and hung by the end of this week.

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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:37 pm

As I stated earlier, it has been a while, but I think I used a piece of pipe that would fit over the spindle shaft and used it to drive the seal into place.
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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby Sailor » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:47 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:As I stated earlier, it has been a while, but I think I used a piece of pipe that would fit over the spindle shaft and used it to drive the seal into place.

I hadn't thought of that, thanks.
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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby GTO Tiger » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:07 am

I too am doing a leather seal replacement. The seal is tapered. Which way should it face? The old one was too shot for me to tell.

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Re: Steering knuckle oil seal

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:41 pm

The side with the spring goes inside, towards the bearing.
Everything on this page is important when installing a seal. Section 8 item 3 answers your specific question.
http://zerelli.com/handling/


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