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Loader Steering Improvement

Postby wrz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:09 am

I have a 59 LoBoy with a Wagner 45 loader and want to improve the steering. 1st impovement is a later steering shaft and worm gear(21 to 24 teeth). 2nd improvement would be adding a thrust bearing or washer to the front axle. Checking this site found no specific thrust bearing or washer. One could use F Cub front axles with full size thrust bearings (McMaster-Carr part number 60715k15) and cut off the excess off and mill a key slot. Would this be worth the effort?

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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby Denny Clayton » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:53 am

The biggest steering improvement on my Cubs when I had a loader was to remove it. :surrender: :lol: But seriously, it was a 1000 loader and they are HEAVY.
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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby CharlieK » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:02 pm

NO POWER STEERING???????? :tractor:
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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:56 pm

McMaster-Karr. You will also need the hardened washer that foes on each side since the load bearing surface inside the tube is brass or Bronze, not sure which and the rollers will sink into it rather than rolling. That is an inch shaft I believe, but better measure it, might be 1 1/8 inch.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rolli ... s/=11vrzjb
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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby wrz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:41 pm

Hi John I saw the thin thrust needle bearing and wondered if they would work as well as the shielded ball bearing type. The size for 1 inch shaft is .625 thick and all most 2 inches in diameter which is why I would use the larger axle of the F Cub . Have you used the thinner thrust bearing on your F cub? Does it help?
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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:57 pm

That is what I have in my loader cub, and moving with the bucket empty I can easily steer it with one hand. As weight in the bucket gets heavy, of course the steering gets harder. Be sure to check where the vertical tubes are welded to the horizontal ones. If any of those welds are cracked or if it has been welded that can cause a problem also
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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby Steve Butram » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:33 am

Add some air pressure to the front tires.

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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:18 am

Steve Butram wrote:Add some air pressure to the front tires.......
I should have mentioned earlier, but old age lets me discard a lot of memories whether I want to or not. Another big improvement in steering came when I replaced my original front wheels with some Cub Cadet wheels that were about half again wider and got some tires for a small car, I don't remember what car it was now, but can get the tire size. Those tires would handle air pressure up to 40 pounds, as opposed to the maximum of 20psi for most cub tires. That also helped a lot with the steering.
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Re: Loader Steering Improvement

Postby liquid plumber » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:33 pm

Hi John.
chris here and just caught this forum discussion on loader and stering.
my 65 has a wagner and sters hard too.
can you maybe draw or show me a pic of the bearing idea and the tire size too please.
do the tires fit on the cub front rims or do I need different rims . maybe you already said that but I didn't quite catch it
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