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Re: tag pictures added

Postby tst » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:35 pm

studs holding the head on instead of bolts are different

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Re: tag pictures added

Postby raystractors » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:55 am

Looks like a Q tag on the ignition distributor also.
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Postby indy61 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:18 am

Maybe it was a test engine for distributor ignition before they went in to production. You may never know unless a previous owner can tell you something. Pretty cool, I would hate to part it out.

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Re: tag pictures added

Postby raystractors » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:58 am

indy61 wrote:Maybe it was a test engine for distributor ignition before they went in to production. You may never know unless a previous owner can tell you something. Pretty cool, I would hate to part it out.

I would not part this one out, but not sure I would be able to restore it. I am not the one to know which parts are research parts and what is common. Are there any other cubs out there that has this type serial numbers that has not been destroyed.

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Postby Jim Becker » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:58 am

indy61 wrote:Maybe it was a test engine for distributor ignition before they went in to production.

"Q" serial numbers were assigned by project. Since this tractor has 2 of them, it suggests the tractor was a test mule for projects that were going on at about the same time. Date codes suggest that battery ignition may have already been on some models and this unit was testing the Cub specific advance curve. Maybe the Q number on the block is associated with some internal modifications they were considering to go along with the timing changes.

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Postby Jim Becker » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:02 pm

raystractors wrote:Are there any other cubs out there that has this type serial numbers that has not been destroyed.

There was one other at Cubarama a few years back. It had some unusual parts on the transmission but others were missing. We couldn't figure out what they were supposed to do. It also had a different front end. I have lost track of that tractor.

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Re: tag pictures added

Postby raystractors » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:31 am

I don't know if the starter was replaced or part of research, but it doesn't have a switch on the starter. There is a push button switch on the dash that looks like the ones used on the H's and M's. I have no way to talk with the owners from years past, so who knows.
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Postby Jim Becker » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:08 pm

raystractors wrote:I don't know if the starter was replaced or part of research, but it doesn't have a switch on the starter. There is a push button switch on the dash that looks like the ones used on the H's and M's. I have no way to talk with the owners from years past, so who knows.

That one is anybody's guess. My gut reaction is to say it was a previous owner mod. But since they were doing experimental work on the ignition, it is easy to imagine some other wiring changes as part of the project. How is the starter button mounted?

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Re: tag pictures added

Postby raystractors » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:15 am

Jim Becker wrote:
raystractors wrote:I don't know if the starter was replaced or part of research, but it doesn't have a switch on the starter. There is a push button switch on the dash that looks like the ones used on the H's and M's. I have no way to talk with the owners from years past, so who knows.

That one is anybody's guess. My gut reaction is to say it was a previous owner mod. But since they were doing experimental work on the ignition, it is easy to imagine some other wiring changes as part of the project. How is the starter button mounted?

Here are a couple of pic that show the start switch. There is no sure way to know without the 1st owner knowledge.
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Re: tag pictures added

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:25 am

raystractors wrote:Here are a couple of pic that show the start switch. There is no sure way to know without the 1st owner knowledge.

Agreed, no way to know. It was nicely done, but nothing that couldn't be done with some basic hand tools and a drill.

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Re: tag pictures added

Postby RaymondDurban » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:22 pm

Can you take a photo of the whole dash viewed from the operator's perspective to show all the items and their layout?

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Re: tag pictures added

Postby raystractors » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:08 am

RaymondDurban wrote:Can you take a photo of the whole dash viewed from the operator's perspective to show all the items and their layout?

here is a pic that may be what you want.
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Re: tag pictures added

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:21 pm

note the location of the on/off switch (aftermarket one so who knows if original location). What is that gauge on the dash? An hour meter? I noticed the light switch is the style with its own fuse which leads me to believe the push button might be original since its in the fuse holder location. It was installed in a neat manner and the hardware and look of the switch look pretty old.

How did you acquire the tractor? Maybe that person knows something.
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Re: tag pictures added

Postby raystractors » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:32 pm

AL Farmall Boy wrote:note the location of the on/off switch (aftermarket one so who knows if original location). What is that gauge on the dash? An hour meter? I noticed the light switch is the style with its own fuse which leads me to believe the push button might be original since its in the fuse holder location. It was installed in a neat manner and the hardware and look of the switch look pretty old.

How did you acquire the tractor? Maybe that person knows something.

The gauge is just an aftermarket ammeter, and as for the switch who knows. This tractor may have been tested for other things over several years, but there is no way to prove any of it. The previous owner could only tell me that he bought it near by in Tennessee. So I guess we can only compare it to other cubs and believe what we will. The parts with the Q serial numbers should be different in some way. I hope to have some time soon where maybe I can see what it would take to make it run.

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Re: tag pictures added

Postby raystractors » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:18 am

The good news, the engine is not stuck. The bad news (so far) the starter does nothing. more to come.


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