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New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Clubless » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:50 pm

The shop that fixed my PTO issue put new brake bands on while they had the finals off. The right brake will slide the tire (in dirt), but the tractor just keeps rolling when depressing the left brake pedal. I'm wondering if they left the woodruff key out when they put the brake drum back on. :roll:

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Gary
Pilot Mtn. NC
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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:13 pm

Was the free play on the pedal adjusted correctly? If not, you might need to shorten the rod from the pedal back to the final.

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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Clubless » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:02 am

Bob,

Peddle will only move about an inch when you press it down, about the same distance as the working right brake. The brake rod clevis is almost at very end of brake rod. I thought clevis would have been threaded further back on the brake rod.

Gary

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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Glen » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:04 am

Hi,
If you had the brakes fixed at a shop, tell them the left brake doesn't work, and that you need it fixed so it works. Hopefully they will fix it for free, if it didn't work since they had it. :)

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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Scrivet » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:39 am

How long ago did the shop fix it? Was the left brake working when you got it back from the shop?

If just back from the shop and not working I agree with Glen. I personally wouldn't start the conversation with telling them what you think they did wrong. You may be wrong also. I'd ask them why the left brake isn't working correctly and let them take it from there. No sense putting them on the defensive about their work. A good shop will investigate and make it right.

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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Shane Nelson » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:53 am

The transmission seal could have been damaged when installing the final and the brake band may be wet with oil causing it not to stop even though you have good firm pedal. Get a flashlight and look in the brake hole and see what you can see. The brake lining may also have came off the metal brake band and be metal to metal causing no stopping to.
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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Clubless » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:49 pm

Thanks for the good advice on how to approach shop owner about the brake issue. My tractor is still over at the shop as I continue to work through minor teaks and issues. Today the mechanic looked through the left axle tube opening with light while I depressed brake pedal and inched very slowly forward. He could see that the brake hub was not turning but the axle did. They are going to take the final back off and see what's the problem. Luckily, I have the old busted left final that I replaced last fall, so I should have parts if needed.

Thanks to everyone for your comments! :hattip:

Gary
Pilot Mtn. NC

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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:55 pm

Good possibility the key slipped out of place when the drum was put on the shaft. I had that happen to me on one of mine once, but spotted the problem before I reinstalled the final.
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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Clubless » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:37 pm

John, you were exactly right! The key was dislodged when the brake band was installed on the drum. We took the final off and put key in place. Now I can "skid" both tires in the dirt. BTW the shop did not charge for the work, said it was their mistake. :{_}:

Thanks everyone! :tractor:
Gary
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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Jeff Silvey » Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:09 am

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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:03 pm

that experience taught me to take a light and look in the key way before putting the final on. :lol: Of course there was also the episode where I got one of mine all together and turned around to discover the left fender still leaning against the wall. :oops:
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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby Clubless » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:27 pm

John...that's too funny! :lol:

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Re: New brake bands installed...no left brake

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:11 am

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:.....discover the left fender still leaning against the wall. :oops:
Yeah, reminds me of the time I changed the oil and started to refill the engine before replacing the drain plug. Now I don't feel so bad since I know others mess up too. :lol:


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