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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Jerry's cub » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:33 am

Okay and thank you to Jim for the input I will check that at my first opportunity.
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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Jerry's cub » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:48 pm

I wasn't using my nogin I also have a 54 inch blade on the front so when its lifting the fast hitch it's also raising the plow on the front never thought about it being lifted at the same time.
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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Jerry's cub » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:11 pm

I hope Jim ques in on my cub the only plug I find is on the rear of the touch control and lies horizontal to the frame and it requires a square wrench similar to an Allen wrench and it is right next to the clutch pedal. Wud that be where the orfice is located u mentioned? And if so do u know what size square wrench fits the plug? Tnx fer any advice
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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Glen » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:27 pm

Hi,
No, the plug on the right side of the head is not the one.
Read Jim's post about which numbers the parts are in the parts pic, the plug is a small plug on the head, but it isn't shown in the parts pic.
Here is a pic below from TM Tractor, it looks like it would be the plug slightly below the middle of the head. You probably have to clean the dirt out of the plug to get a wrench into the hole, it might be a 1/4 inch ratchet square drive, not sure.
Then when you remove it, you have to have a screwdriver with the right size tip to fit the orifice, and screw it out.
You don't have to remove the head to get the orifice out, evidently. :)
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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Glen » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:32 pm

Hi,
Here is a pic of where the orifice is, that I found in another post. The head is removed in the pic. :)
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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:04 pm

Glen has you pointed the right way. You should be able to get the orifice out through the hole where the plug is. Use a screwdriver that is a tight fit in the slot. Grind one to fit if necessary.

I'd leave the unit in place. The more times/things you open on the hydraulics, the more chance of some more contamination. Remove the fuel tank. Unbolt the rear tank support (instrument panel) and move it back to gain some working room if needed.

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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Jerry's cub » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:31 am

I followed Jims directions but all I found at position number 59 was a bolt and was unable to see anything behind it, however on the opposite side of the plate is a protrusion with a pipe plug right next to the clutch pedal I was unable to find a square tool of the correct size to remove it. I do not see the plug on the parts diagram when I find the right tool to remove it I WILL SEE WHATS behind IT. Also I will have order a pressure gauge to check pump pressure could not find one with the necessary psi capabilities at the napa parts store, what I did find out is if I push governor rod beyond normal high throttle setting and increase rpm's it lifts the loaded carryall much better. So maybe governor is not coming in enough to raise rpm's to handle the load. Never played with one these so have much to learn.
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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Jerry's cub » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:43 am

Thank you Glen that is a great description without removing the tank and dash one wud never know its there, and I did not remove either but now I know it is necessary to get to it. I wud assume when I remove the orfice I will need to replace an o ring when putting back, will look at parts schematic to clarify. Again thank you Glen
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Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Glen » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:48 pm

Hi,
Sorry if this is confusing. You are right, there is no pic of the small plug in the parts pic at number 59, the head. I posted the pic of the rear of the unit so you could see the plug.
It shows the plug over where the orifice is. The plug on the right side by the clutch pedal is not the plug.
I'm not sure about the orifice needing an o-ring, it doesn't show one in the parts pic.
You could hook up an engine RPM testing tachometer to the engine, and see if it runs at full RPM at full throttle.
Your Cub was made near the time they changed from 1600 to 1800 RPM Max engine speed, they changed at serial number 192113, so it might tell on the serial number plate what the Max RPM is, the newer ones did not say there. :)

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Location: North Central Pennsylvania (gods country)

Re: fast hitch slow to lift

Postby Jerry's cub » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:08 am

Okay thank you Glen my cub serial number is 191542 J so it could be either I will have to check the plate.
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