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Left in Barn- 20+ Years
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- Location: Chesapeake Va
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Left in Barn- 20+ Years
My Grandfather left his Farmall Cub in the back of his barn over 20 years ago right after got his big "green tractor". I pulled it out last fall and I have done all that I know how to do. The details are endless... I wish I could find some local help. Chesapeake, Va. The 6 volt system is new to me and I don't know if I have a magneto or not? How do I check for a spark? The seral plate is missing but the block is stamped 5.25.S. Is this 1949?
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Yes it is a 1949. You have a distributor. Looks great for sitting so long. Make sure you prime the oil pump.
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Welcome to Farmall Cub SwampGeorge.
Good lookin tractor.
Appears to have a coil. So not an original configuration in a magneto system on a 48 anyway.
Spark can be checked by grounding a sparkplug against the engine head then cranking engine ( with ignition kill switch off ,allowing current.)
Good lookin tractor.
Appears to have a coil. So not an original configuration in a magneto system on a 48 anyway.
Spark can be checked by grounding a sparkplug against the engine head then cranking engine ( with ignition kill switch off ,allowing current.)
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Congratulations on the family connection. At least it was in a barn and had some weather protection. Manuals, parts lists, repair and service information are available as free downloads on this forum. Enjoy the ride!!! Stan
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Thank you. Can I get any contact info on groups or individuals in my area. Chesapeake VA, 23323. I think I'm going to need some outside help. Thanks for anything that you can do for me.
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
note that it is 6 volt POSITIVE ground
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Check the members list and the locations of cub fest in your area.
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Hi,
IH calls the distributor a Battery Ignition Unit. They didn't have them yet on Cubs in 1949. They came with a magneto. After the Battery Ignition Unit came out, in 1950 on Cubs, IH offered a kit to convert tractors with magnetos to Battery Ignition Units. Yours might have that, or someone got one somewhere else and put on.
The Battery Ignition Unit is not in the 1949 owner's manual, it wasn't available yet. Here are pages from a newer Cub owner's manual showing it. This has info about replacing the points.
Below that is the 1949 owner's manual. The experts on here recommend reading it, if you never have before. It has much info about operation, lubrication, and maintenance.
It has a table of contents on page 1, makes it easier to use on the internet to look for one item.
The fuel system might need cleaning, there is the strainer under the gas tank, the bowl needs cleaning if dirty. The gasket might need replacing, they get old and don't seal after removing the bowl. There should be a fine screen above the gasket, they need cleaning or replacing if torn.
The carburetor might need cleaning.
Here are new parts below, at TM Tractor, one of this sites advertisers. The site has many parts for Cubs.
I see in your pics that the Cub has the Universal Mounting Frame over the mower. The frame is used for cultivators and other implements. The frame is an option. Usually people would remove the frame to use the rotary mower. The pieces of the frame slide into the large square hole. Remove the lift rods from the Touch Control arms, then loosen the setscrews and the pieces come out.
Below is a page from the Cub 144 cultivator owner's manual showing the frame.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-31.jpg
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-32.jpg
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/426fp.htm
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/235fp.htm
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-10.jpg
IH calls the distributor a Battery Ignition Unit. They didn't have them yet on Cubs in 1949. They came with a magneto. After the Battery Ignition Unit came out, in 1950 on Cubs, IH offered a kit to convert tractors with magnetos to Battery Ignition Units. Yours might have that, or someone got one somewhere else and put on.
The Battery Ignition Unit is not in the 1949 owner's manual, it wasn't available yet. Here are pages from a newer Cub owner's manual showing it. This has info about replacing the points.
Below that is the 1949 owner's manual. The experts on here recommend reading it, if you never have before. It has much info about operation, lubrication, and maintenance.
It has a table of contents on page 1, makes it easier to use on the internet to look for one item.
The fuel system might need cleaning, there is the strainer under the gas tank, the bowl needs cleaning if dirty. The gasket might need replacing, they get old and don't seal after removing the bowl. There should be a fine screen above the gasket, they need cleaning or replacing if torn.
The carburetor might need cleaning.
Here are new parts below, at TM Tractor, one of this sites advertisers. The site has many parts for Cubs.
I see in your pics that the Cub has the Universal Mounting Frame over the mower. The frame is used for cultivators and other implements. The frame is an option. Usually people would remove the frame to use the rotary mower. The pieces of the frame slide into the large square hole. Remove the lift rods from the Touch Control arms, then loosen the setscrews and the pieces come out.
Below is a page from the Cub 144 cultivator owner's manual showing the frame.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-31.jpg
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-32.jpg
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/426fp.htm
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/235fp.htm
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-10.jpg
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Your best bet for help is the 11th HOG WALLER CUBFEST the first weekend of May at Randolph VA, 23962. Go to the CUBFEST calendar page and you will find lots of information. There will be more knowledge available there than you can absorb. If you can take your CUB, you will come away with most of not all your problems resolved. IT'S FREE!!! Contact BOSS HOG, aka David, his contact information in in the post announcing the event. Good luck.
EDIT: Looks like about a 3 hour trip for you, it's about 50 miles WNW from South Hill.
EDIT: Looks like about a 3 hour trip for you, it's about 50 miles WNW from South Hill.
Stan in LA (lower AL)
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
tst wrote:note that it is 6 volt POSITIVE ground
Thanks! Yes this was the first mistake I made... The battery was missing and I installed the new battery "backwards". And yes I tried to start it this way several times. Did I burn anything up by doing this?
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
No, didn't burn anything up.SwampGeorge wrote:The battery was missing and I installed the new battery "backwards". And yes I tried to start it this way several times. Did I burn anything up by doing this?tst wrote:note that it is 6 volt POSITIVE ground
If you haven't done so, prime the oil pump before trying to start the tractor. Reason, Cubs oil pumps have a tendency to loose their prime after sitting for long periods of time. Search function, top of page, on how to prime the oil pump.
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Thanks! I will research that right now. I don't think I'm getting a spark I will look in to that also. I'm still learn how to get around this web site. Glad I found it. Thanks again for all your help!
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Thanks! So I need to have the knob pushed in? Not pulled out?Waif wrote:Welcome to Farmall Cub SwampGeorge.
Good lookin tractor.
Appears to have a coil. So not an original configuration in a magneto system on a 48 anyway.
Spark can be checked by grounding a sparkplug against the engine head then cranking engine ( with ignition kill switch off ,allowing current.)
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- Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:46 pm
- Zip Code: 23323
- Tractors Owned: 1949 IH Farmall Cub
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
Glen wrote:Hi,
IH calls the distributor a Battery Ignition Unit. They didn't have them yet on Cubs in 1949. They came with a magneto. After the Battery Ignition Unit came out, in 1950 on Cubs, IH offered a kit to convert tractors with magnetos to Battery Ignition Units. Yours might have that, or someone got one somewhere else and put on.
The Battery Ignition Unit is not in the 1949 owner's manual, it wasn't available yet. Here are pages from a newer Cub owner's manual showing it. This has info about replacing the points.
Below that is the 1949 owner's manual. The experts on here recommend reading it, if you never have before. It has much info about operation, lubrication, and maintenance.
It has a table of contents on page 1, makes it easier to use on the internet to look for one item.
The fuel system might need cleaning, there is the strainer under the gas tank, the bowl needs cleaning if dirty. The gasket might need replacing, they get old and don't seal after removing the bowl. There should be a fine screen above the gasket, they need cleaning or replacing if torn.
The carburetor might need cleaning.
Here are new parts below, at TM Tractor, one of this sites advertisers. The site has many parts for Cubs.
I see in your pics that the Cub has the Universal Mounting Frame over the mower. The frame is used for cultivators and other implements. The frame is an option. Usually people would remove the frame to use the rotary mower. The pieces of the frame slide into the large square hole. Remove the lift rods from the Touch Control arms, then loosen the setscrews and the pieces come out.
Below is a page from the Cub 144 cultivator owner's manual showing the frame.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-31.jpg
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-32.jpg
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/426fp.htm
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/235fp.htm
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-10.jpg
Thanks for all the info! I have taken the tank/hood off to clean the motor and to get to the spark plugs. The spark plug area was full of greasy grit and I did not want any of it to fall inside the head. My next step is to make sure the oil pump is primed and find out if I am getting a spark. If no spark then why... Wish me luck!
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Re: Left in Barn- 20+ Years
staninlowerAL wrote:Your best bet for help is the 11th HOG WALLER CUBFEST the first weekend of May at Randolph VA, 23962. Go to the CUBFEST calendar page and you will find lots of information. There will be more knowledge available there than you can absorb. If you can take your CUB, you will come away with most of not all your problems resolved. IT'S FREE!!! Contact BOSS HOG, aka David, his contact information in in the post announcing the event. Good luck.
EDIT: Looks like about a 3 hour trip for you, it's about 50 miles WNW from South Hill.
Thanks I wound love to show up with this tractor running. Wish me luck...
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