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Dale Finch
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Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:01 am

The GOOD NEWS: :D
I got back to work on the '55 cub (Bailey) who's engine went bang last summer. The "new" engine is almost ready to install as soon as I put the clutch back on, and I transfer other parts from the dead engine.
The BAD NEWS: :shock:
As I removed the alternator, coil and distributor, lo and behold, see what I had missed earlier:
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The OH WELL NEWS: :?
At least I will save LOTS of time and $$ NOT rebuilding this engine!!

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Bigdog » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:03 am

Ouch!
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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:19 am

Hey, a lot of folks think JB Weld can fix anything...!!! :lol:

More time to play with my other tractors! And now I have some great spare cub parts, like air cleaner, starter, hyd pump, exhaust manifold, fan, distributor, governor, etc. There are times when you just have to see the positive things in life, right?! :big smile:

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Sailor » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:43 pm

So what caused the hole or can you tell yet?
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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:57 pm

Dale, I didn't break it!
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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:09 pm

The hole can be repaired, but if you do I suggest getting one of the engine braces to reinforce that side. Rick Prentice no longer makes them, but I believe someone else was getting some made. That crankshaft looks to be in pretty bad shape. It definitely needs to go to a machine shop.
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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Peter Person » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:18 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:The hole can be repaired, but if you do I suggest getting one of the engine braces to reinforce that side. Rick Prentice no longer makes them, but I believe someone else was getting some made. That crankshaft looks to be in pretty bad shape. It definitely needs to go to a machine shop.


I agree with John on repairing the hole. Do you have the piece that broke out?
Our 4H Club advisor has a local machine shop fix holes like that all the time. He has an IH340 (?) diesel (engine blew a rod out through the side of the block) with a repaired block that gets used all the time.

If everything else about the block is good, it's a candidate for repair.

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:30 pm

Wonder if the local High School or Vocational School wants it as a project? Rudi was a great promoter of helping those places. Hmmm...anyone have experience with that?

This is the engine that stopped in a fraction of a second. Just whoomph! When I dropped the pan, it looked rebuildable...the #1 tie rod was jammed between the crank and cam shafts, with obvious bearing and crankshaft wear. Rod was bent and could not be budged. I was waiting to get it on an engine stand to assess the damage.
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I do not have the broken out piece. Since it is cast, how would you fill a hole that's about 3" in diameter?!

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:54 am

Sounds like a water jacket freeze plug might fit! A little duct tape and some JB should do the trick!
Looks like you need a new rod too.

That's a real loss. Guess we can see what the end-of-life for a block looks like.
I hope you get a new heart transplant for her.
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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:03 am

I think I will pass on working on the block. Since I am no longer in that fantastic shop I had "squatted" in for 6 years, it is not as easy to get this kind of work done. This week I hope to pull the front end off, then remove the engine, check TOB and parts, then bolt on the new engine.

I'll either offer the old block with its innards to a school, or see if it is worth anything for parts. I've already stripped the outside of anything bolted on!

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!! SHE LIVES!!

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:58 pm

Hooray! She lives again! Finished the engine swap, so had no more excuses for not trying her out! :lol:

:D Started on the first try, with no leaks: oil, hydraulics (rebuilt pump), carb. She had good oil pressure and was charging. I will try to attach a YouTube Video of her... at the end I revved it up to check governor function. It was fine, but I had put some cardboard behind the underslung exhaust to protect my toolbox, and it deflected the smoke forward. I had earlier done a dry and wet compression check (which was good) so it was (most likely!?) burning off that oil I had put in the cylinders.

Time now to run it around a bunch to make sure all is well. (Then she will be posted on the VINE...one too many tractors for the shed space! You should have bought it before I got her this far...would have been a lot cheaper!!)

NOTE: I'll try attaching the video when I get on my computer.

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:12 pm

Not on my computer, but will see if this link works:
https://youtu.be/7noRXkMYdxM

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby khutchins » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:45 pm

Hooray
Glad you were able to save it.
Sounds smooth too. Nice job.

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:06 am

Good job!
Your tractors always look neat and clean. That's rustoleum fish oil primer right?
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"

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Re: Good news...really bad news...oh well news!!

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:43 am

Here are photos from last night, after final testing (timing light spot on!), and installing the tank/hood, dog legs and grill...ahhhh, sweet success! :D
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