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Dale Finch
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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:42 pm

You weren't in my class at UF were you?!!
:lol:

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Lt.Mike » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:58 pm

Dale I rebuilt my Cubs starter a couple of years ago on that Cub you saw me tooling around on at Boss's last year. Same starter. I really didn't find it to be all that complicated.
Actually I was kinda surprised at how primative and basic it's design was. No real voodoo there.
I got a brush, spring and bushing kit along with a new bendex and switch off eBay. Don't think I paid more than $70 for all that. I took it apart and cleaned it up. Re-soldered the wires to the brushes and put it all together. The difference was dramatic.
That was a few years back and it's worked perfect since. It's also a 6v starter working with a 12v conversion.
Mike
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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:13 pm

Oh well...got the verdict on the starter...armature and windings toast. Needs complete rebuild. Price $220. Decided I will just wait until I need another starter, and then look for a used one. I'll also keep my eyes open for a good deal in the meantime. I plan to go pick it up next week, and will ask if the bendix and top section are any good, then send it on to Stan after giving it the last rites!!
Merry Christmas, Stan! Is it worth enough to you to ship it, or should I wait to see if we end up at a cubfest together...Barnyard's??

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:00 pm

Dale Finch wrote:Oh well...got the verdict on the starter...armature and windings toast...... then send it on to Stan after giving it the last rites!! Merry Christmas, Stan! Is it worth enough to you to ship it, or should I wait to see if we end up at a cubfest together...Barnyard's??
If you have a corner to store it, next time we're at a Cubfest will be OK (that will probably be DSCF for me). In the meantime if someone needs it before the next time together, pass it on. Stan

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:56 pm

You got it!

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:32 am

Dale Finch wrote:Oh well...got the verdict on the starter...armature and windings toast. Needs complete rebuild. Price $220. Decided I will just wait until I need another starter, and then look for a used one. I'll also keep my eyes open for a good deal in the meantime. I plan to go pick it up next week, and will ask if the bendix and top section are any good, then send it on to Stan after giving it the last rites!!
Merry Christmas, Stan! Is it worth enough to you to ship it, or should I wait to see if we end up at a cubfest together...Barnyard's??

Now I really wish I lived closer.
You can rebuild that yourself form a fraction of that price. I even have a good used armature I'd give you. If you can rebuild an engine, change clutches and the like you can easily rebuild the starter.
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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:43 am

Just did a parts check. To rebuild soup to nuts with new field coils, armature, brushes, springs, bushings, and switch, $120. If you don't need field coils, $80.
Brand new starter $220.
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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:24 pm

I would love to know the contact source for these rebuild prices. And I'll purchase the good armature you have if you will send me a PM. Stan

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:08 pm

staninlowerAL wrote:I would love to know the contact source for these rebuild prices. And I'll purchase the good armature you have if you will send me a PM. Stan

All those parts can be found on eBay. Search farmall Cub starter. Are those parts made in China, most probably.(what isn't?)
A lot of the US based parts suppliers sell on eBay and what I've bought has held up. I have also bought a bunch of stuff from TM and they definitely have the best service.
Mike
PS- I'm not really looking to part with the armature. Dale has helped me out when I needed some tough parts, so if she needed the armature it's hers.
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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Dale Finch » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:12 am

I haven't picked the dead starter up yet, but for now I plan to let it RIP! I will probably remove and save the Bendix assembly, then hang on to it until it gets to Stan for a "core". Don't have the immediate need for a starter, and certainly don't have the funds for the rebuild.

Mike, thanks SO much for your offer...very much appreciated! Hang on to it..hopefully you WON'T need it!!
:D

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:22 am

Dale Finch wrote:Hang on to it..hopefully you WON'T need it!!
:D

Oh I'm good at that. :roll:
I've got a barn and basement packed with stuff I'll need "someday".
Getting better with that though. Some of the things that now even in the deep recesses of my brain I can't see my using I've finally parted with on CL and eBay.
Helps to realize I've been sitting (hoarding) some of this stuff for 30+ years. Why? :?
So believe me, I've got no problem letting go of a part if it helps a friend! :lol:
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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Posco » Tue May 15, 2018 12:25 pm

I'll revive this thread rather than starting another one. I have a 1950 Cub and I assume the starter is original to the tractor. The Bendix is shot so I'm going to go ahead and order another one. Is there anything else I should be looking at dealing with the starter? Thanks.

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby ntrenn » Tue May 15, 2018 12:56 pm

Mine wore out the brushes...there is a nice little ebay kit for less than $15 that has the bushings too...

6v starter going on its 40th year on 12 volts...

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Re: Fried starter...rebuild?

Postby Posco » Tue May 15, 2018 3:41 pm

ntrenn wrote:Mine wore out the brushes...there is a nice little ebay kit for less than $15 that has the bushings too...

6v starter going on its 40th year on 12 volts...


Thanks for the response, I'll look into it.


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