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What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby inairam » Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:05 pm

I am looking at a Cub with a C22 sickle on it. I have not seen the sickle operate yet but I do not know what do you look for with a c-22. Are there specific part or parts take are usually missing or cracked? There is anything specific related to the c-22 on the Cub you have look at for damage?

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Re: What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby tmays » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:37 pm

Check the pto pulley. Make sure it's tight on shaft with no shims or mods and make sure it's for a 22 mower. Print off a copy manual and take with you to be sure everything is there
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Re: What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby Glen » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:25 pm

Hi,
Check the 2 mounting bolts at the clutch housing, they should be the tapered head IH bolts.
Some of them are run with those bolts loose, because of the vibration, or else just not tightened enough, this wears out the threads in the clutch housing, the threads can be ruined by that if it was run long enough. The bolts need checking for tightness during use to keep them tight. Maybe you can loosen them before buying it and check them, just wiggle them side to side and see if the bolts are tight in the threads.
The rear mounting bolts should be kept tight too.
The long shaft has a bushing at each end, they can be worn so the shaft is loose fitting, it usually takes a pry bar to lift the front weight up and down, to check for wear, it should have no up and down movement checking it that way. I think I use a short piece of 2x4 and put it in the front shield to pry on. If the front shield is gone, there would be nothing to pry on, you would need some blocks.
The rear end of the shaft is held up by the belt, so can't check the bushing there without loosening the belt probably.
The 2 pins at the inner end of the bar can get worn and loose, you could check that.
The front rod should be straight, and attached to the left side of the square hole, like in the pic.
Here is a pic of the PTO pulley also, from TM Tractor. There should be a cotter key through the small hole, and a 3/8 inch bolt through the larger hole, and a nut on the end, to tighten the pulley on the PTO shaft. :)
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Re: What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby Scrivet » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:58 pm

Your fingers if you are not careful!

It's a perfectly safe piece of equipment that can be very dangerous if misused or you don't understand how it works. (of course that's true with a lot of things)

Make sure to NEVER wrap your fingers around or between the guards. To NEVER try to unplug the bar while it's operating. And NEVER let dogs or cats run loose around it in operation.

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Re: What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:28 pm

Along with all the above, inspect the cutter bar (guards, sections, clips) for wear. Replacing those parts due to wear usually has a multiplier of 17 to 20 and the cost adds up.

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Re: What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby Peter Person » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:26 am

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Re: What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby tmays » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:05 am

This thread could go on for awhile. Lot of parts on a 22. :-)
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Re: What to look for when looking to buy a c22 sickle?

Postby Glen » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:12 pm

Hi,
Yes, like Jim wrote above, the cutter bar parts need to be in good condition for it to cut good.
The knives and ledger plates need to be sharp if you are going to cut fine grass. Serrated knives work better for me in fine grass.
They come in regular, or heavy duty at Case IH, or did when I asked the last time. Cubs usually have the regular duty knives. The heavy duty knives are thicker material, so if you change to those, you need to bend up all the hold down clips, so the knives will go into the bar, unless the hold down clips are worn so much that it goes in anyway.
Here is a listing from TM Tractor of the serrated knifes they sell. :)

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/sm/491fp.htm


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