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Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

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Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby inairam » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:28 am

One set of round backlight had the rubber connections hardened to the point the mating connection would not go in. I have not been able to find these connections and did not want to replace the lights fixtures that were otherwise ok
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I did a search and there is a lot of info on softening harden rubber by soaking it in 3 parts alcohol ( I used denatured because we had it at work isopropyl is what is recommended) and 1 part methyl salicylate (AKA Wintergreen Oil it smells like a cross between Lysol and a candy shop)
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After 24 hours the rubber was soft. ( It I did it at home I would have checked it more frequently and may have pulled it sooner)

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It does not come up much but here you go if it does.
Last edited by inairam on Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:37 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby ricky racer » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:33 am

Great post!! Hopefully it will find a permanent spot in the "how to" section.....
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Postby pickerandsinger » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:39 am

Farmall Cub Creme de Menthe...Seriously good to know...Thanks Dave
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:37 pm

Looks like it had some effect on the paint?
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Postby MAGNETO » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:50 pm

The crying face drawn on the workbench is a nice, humorous touch.
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby inairam » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:57 pm

The alcohol did impact a very crappy over paint job but not the OEM paint. The whole tractor has very poor white and wrong color yellow over paint

I did not notice the crying face on the bench. Was not intentional but it was fitting. Rather be lucky than good!
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Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:50 pm

Makes sense, we used to use wintergreen oil on our indoor RC car tires to give them more grip on the carpet track.

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Postby Don McCombs » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:29 pm

Where did you get the wintergreen oil?
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby inairam » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:04 am

online. Amazon I think. google both the names. wintergreen oil is an " essential oil" you get a lot of health food sites. the chemical name gives you cheaper options.
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby PoconoCub » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:11 am

inairam wrote:One set of round backlight had the rubber connections hardened to the point the mating connection would not go in. I have not been able to find these connections and did not want to replace the lights fixtures that were otherwise ok before.png


Are you talking about these connectors?
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If so they are available at TM Tractor http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/4916fp.htm
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby Stanton » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:26 am

PoconoCub wrote:Are you talking about these connectors? If so they are available at TM Tractor http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/4916fp.htm


I don't believe he is. He has round-backed headlights (later model Cubs), your pic shows teardrop style (earlier models). The rubber piece on a teardrop headlight is supposed to remain hard.
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1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby inairam » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:28 am

No the round back lights used in the mid 60s and later have a different molded connection.
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Re: Softening harden rubber - lights FYI

Postby PoconoCub » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:01 am

Stanton wrote:
PoconoCub wrote:Are you talking about these connectors? If so they are available at TM Tractor http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/4916fp.htm


I don't believe he is. He has round-backed headlights (later model Cubs), your pic shows teardrop style (earlier models). The rubber piece on a teardrop headlight is supposed to remain hard.


Ahh didn't realize they were round back lights, with my eyes I need to look a bit better.
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