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Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Thu May 04, 2017 5:42 am

I have looked at many pictures of Mott Flail Mowers and have not found one that looks like this one and was hoping someone can either confirm it is a Mott or another brand. What is confusing me is the extra pulleys on the top and it uses two belts to run it.

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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby pickerandsinger » Thu May 04, 2017 6:31 am

I just bought a fast hitch mott...I don't know much about them...I believe there are fast hitch and those that mount on the side and run off a mule drive...Whether of not it is a Mott , I don't know...Boss Hog is having his Hog Waller Cub Fest and Buzzard Wing, the king of mowing and mowers, is attending so you may not get an answer for awhile...But I thought I'd answer as no one else has...I'm sure others will chime in...... :D ...Have a good day...Dave
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby mva1958 » Thu May 04, 2017 6:35 am

It looks like a Mott, perhaps for a non-IH tractor.
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Thu May 04, 2017 9:33 am

pickerandsinger wrote:I just bought a fast hitch mott...I don't know much about them...I believe there are fast hitch and those that mount on the side and run off a mule drive...Whether of not it is a Mott , I don't know...Boss Hog is having his Hog Waller Cub Fest and Buzzard Wing, the king of mowing and mowers, is attending so you may not get an answer for awhile...But I thought I'd answer as no one else has...I'm sure others will chime in...... :D ...Have a good day...Dave


Thanks Dave, this one does mount underneath I know that much.
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Thu May 04, 2017 9:34 am

mva1958 wrote:It looks like a Mott, perhaps for a non-IH tractor.


I believe it is for a cub as it has most of the stuff to mount it under a cub, I will see it in person on saturday when I pick it up.
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby tmays » Thu May 04, 2017 9:43 am

Don't have anything for reference in pics, but looks to big to be for a cub. Drawbar in pic doesn't look like cub drawbar, but it's hard for me to say definitely. Looking at it on phone and pic blurs when I enlarge it
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Thu May 04, 2017 10:16 am

tmays wrote:Don't have anything for reference in pics, but looks to big to be for a cub. Drawbar in pic doesn't look like cub drawbar, but it's hard for me to say definitely. Looking at it on phone and pic blurs when I enlarge it


The person I am trading parts for the mower for said it is for a cub, I guess I will see when we get there on saturday.
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby tst » Thu May 04, 2017 10:23 am

it looks similar to a cub but they did not have the extra pulley on it like that one does, here are a couple pics of what the cub flail looks like
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Thu May 04, 2017 11:08 am

tst wrote:it looks similar to a cub but they did not have the extra pulley on it like that one does, here are a couple pics of what the cub flail looks like


Do you know the width of the mower? I have asked the owner to measure it for me but I have nothing to reference it to.
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu May 04, 2017 1:21 pm

It appears to be for a cub or for a Super. Cub I would think due to the size of the pto pulley, Super A would need a larger pto pulley due to it's Lower speed pto. All the belly mount Motts I have seen were off set to the right about a foot and a half, but that one would center mount. It is missing the jockey rod Also from the pictures I cannot tell if the brackets (2 pieces on each end) that mount the roller are there. The idler pulley mount being on the flat strap welded to the drawbar bracket and the extra little flat straps on the chains would appear to be very early model. I am thinking that with that setup a chain may have gone to a rockshaft arm .on each side of the tractor rather than having the side mounted lift arms as were normally used. It could have been intended for a LoBoy
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby Jim Becker » Thu May 04, 2017 2:02 pm

It looks like a Mott D-9C. It is the same as the D-9 except it is made to mount centered under the tractor rather than offset to the side. I think the offset versions are more common. This one has an advantage working in narrow spaces.

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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Thu May 04, 2017 2:21 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:It appears to be for a cub or for a Super. Cub I would think due to the size of the pto pulley, Super A would need a larger pto pulley due to it's Lower speed pto. All the belly mount Motts I have seen were off set to the right about a foot and a half, but that one would center mount. It is missing the jockey rod Also from the pictures I cannot tell if the brackets (2 pieces on each end) that mount the roller are there. The idler pulley mount being on the flat strap welded to the drawbar bracket and the extra little flat straps on the chains would appear to be very early model. I am thinking that with that setup a chain may have gone to a rockshaft arm .on each side of the tractor rather than having the side mounted lift arms as were normally used. It could have been intended for a LoBoy


I cannot tell either John if the roller brackets are there, the current owner does think there maybe some missing parts but I will see on saturday.
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Thu May 04, 2017 2:24 pm

Jim Becker wrote:It looks like a Mott D-9C. It is the same as the D-9 except it is made to mount centered under the tractor rather than offset to the side. I think the offset versions are more common. This one has an advantage working in narrow spaces.


Well if it is an earlier model Jim it may just be a good find, I would rather it be offset but if it ends up being in the center I can work with that. The current owner did tell me he had it mounted to his 48 cub at onetime so we see what it looks like on saturday and with the trade in parts it will not cost me much.
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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby Scrivet » Thu May 04, 2017 9:18 pm

PoconoCub wrote:[...... the current owner does think there maybe some missing parts but I will see on saturday.
Say like half a pulley maybe? :(

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Re: Is this a Mott Flail Mower?

Postby PoconoCub » Mon May 08, 2017 5:52 am

Scrivet wrote:
PoconoCub wrote:[...... the current owner does think there maybe some missing parts but I will see on saturday.
Say like half a pulley maybe? :(


Well not exactly half a pulley, but there is a chunk missing. I think I can rebuild it with JB Weld to make it usable. It is missing one bracket to hold the roller on which I probably will have to get made up.
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