Rear Tire Removal

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby ntrenn » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:00 pm

On tne right side, the waffle pad is perfect for the jack stand. I do that side first. The other side....i just set it down on the wheel center NOT directly on a concrete block and leave weight on the jack.
When you get the tires dismounted...you may want to take the rims back home for some remedial work before you mount tires back on the rims...

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby offrink » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:38 pm

I get nervous jacking my cub up at the drawbar. I have loaded tires and two wheel weights per side. I do everything I can to not jack it up at the drawbar. A chain hoist and a strap per side seems a better idea.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:45 pm

The bottom of each final drive housing is a stamped steel oil pan. Don't support the tractor's weight by the pan. Other points are OK as long as you can set up stable supports.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby pickerandsinger » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:22 am

Matt Kirsch wrote:Hang on a sec guys.

I believe gjpgonzo wants to remove the tire AND rim, and take them to the tire shop to have the hard work done by a professional.

All this advice about soap and tire spoons and Esco bead breakers is going way overboard. The only tool he should need is a socket wrench to undo the four bolts holding the rim to the wheel center.

I personally would leave the wheel center with the tractor. It will make the rest lighter and easier to load in the truck for the trip to the tire shop, especially if the tractor has wheel weights.

As far as jacking, I have always jacked from the drawbar mount on each side. this lets you use a stable floor jack and keep the jacking close to the ground for better stability overall. Jack up the side, remove the rim and tire, and set the wheel center down on some 4x4 or 6x6 cribbing before moving to the other side. IMHO wedging the front end is optional, though it can't hurt to do it. You won't be removing the entire wheel assembly so neither side will really be light enough to flip over.


.............I think the consensus of opinions , is to use the tire shop ...The original question was to remove the tires to install new tubes....No mention of how or where....Just forum members offering advice as to what they perceived as the question....I don't think being antagonistic to their replies helps the process...Dave....
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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby gjpgonzo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:22 am

Sorry if I have offended anyone. That was not at all my intent. I thank you all for all of your help and support.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby Shane Nelson » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:28 am

gjpgonzo wrote:Sorry if I have offended anyone. That was not at all my intent. I thank you all for all of your help and support.

No need for an apology to anyone, you ask the same question to 10 people you'll get 10 different answers. :D
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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby pickerandsinger » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:58 pm

Chipmaker wrote:
gjpgonzo wrote:Sorry if I have offended anyone. That was not at all my intent. I thank you all for all of your help and support.

No need for an apology to anyone, you ask the same question to 10 people you'll get 10 different answers. :D
.....Its all good...My secondary response had no reflection towards you....Your question was legit and I hope you received some good advice...Its why the forum exists...Hope your new tubes work out well....Dave
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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby Scrivet » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:13 pm

pickerandsinger wrote:.......The original question was to remove the tires to install new tubes....No mention of how or where.......
Original post no, but in follow up post (fourth from the top) clearly states intentions.
gjpgonzo wrote:Thank you, yes I intend to take them to a tire shop and have them do it. ...............

I'm sorry but I think calling a direct answer to gjpgonzo's actual question antagonistic is rather harsh. I don't see any hostility, just pointing out the fact that several of the replies were addressing the subject line and not addressing the question at hand.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby brewzalot » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:11 am

[quote="gjpgonzo"]I have looked in the "How to" section, but I can't find the info I am looking for. I need to remove both rear tires to have new tubes installed. What is the best and safest way of doing this? [quote]

Replace the word "tires" with "wheels" and everyone probably would have gone down the right road.
Sometimes the willingness to help can lead to off topic discussion if a word or post is missed-which is ok and bound to happen.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby Matt Kirsch » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:28 am

pickerandsinger wrote:.............I think the consensus of opinions , is to use the tire shop ...The original question was to remove the tires to install new tubes....No mention of how or where....Just forum members offering advice as to what they perceived as the question....I don't think being antagonistic to their replies helps the process...Dave....


This is what he said in the original post:

I need to remove both rear tires to have new tubes installed.


If he were going to install new tubes himself, wouldn't he have worded it this way?

I need to remove both rear tires to install new tubes.


To me it was pretty clear he was going to have someone else install the tubes, and if I am not mistaken he clarified later in the thread.

Not sure how my post was "antagonistic." Everyone else was telling him how it was better to leave the tires on the tractor, and/or what tools and products to use to dismount the tires. I simply offered a different point of view that directly answered his question.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby Matt Kirsch » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:30 am

gjpgonzo wrote:
Matt Kirsch wrote:Hang on a sec guys.

I believe gjpgonzo wants to remove the tire AND rim, and take them to the tire shop to have the hard work done by a professional.

All this advice about soap and tire spoons and Esco bead breakers is going way overboard. The only tool he should need is a socket wrench to undo the four bolts holding the rim to the wheel center.

I personally would leave the wheel center with the tractor. It will make the rest lighter and easier to load in the truck for the trip to the tire shop, especially if the tractor has wheel weights.

As far as jacking, I have always jacked from the drawbar mount on each side. this lets you use a stable floor jack and keep the jacking close to the ground for better stability overall. Jack up the side, remove the rim and tire, and set the wheel center down on some 4x4 or 6x6 cribbing before moving to the other side. IMHO wedging the front end is optional, though it can't hurt to do it. You won't be removing the entire wheel assembly so neither side will really be light enough to flip over.





Matt yes thank you!!!! This is exactly the advice I was looking for!!! Drawbar is installed with the correct bolts. I will jack it up from the drawbar but can I block it up under where the drawbar attaches?


You can, but it's tricky with the jack in the way. I've actually put a jack stand under there, but I was only removing one wheel at a time. Two jack stands would be kind of wobbly.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby pickerandsinger » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:25 pm

Scrivet wrote:
pickerandsinger wrote:.......The original question was to remove the tires to install new tubes....No mention of how or where.......
Original post no, but in follow up post (fourth from the top) clearly states intentions.
gjpgonzo wrote:Thank you, yes I intend to take them to a tire shop and have them do it. ...............

I'm sorry but I think calling a direct answer to gjpgonzo's actual question antagonistic is rather harsh. I don't see any hostility, just pointing out the fact that several of the replies were addressing the subject line and not addressing the question at hand.
.....Gee I thought it was a great post and handled in a gentleman like fashion...The subject may have been misread and perhaps even mistakenly responded to, all in an effort to help someone out with a question they had....As with every post if the information received doesn't fit the question , the person can disregard it...I was trying to avoid the pitfall of a rant getting started over perhaps a misunderstood opinion (reply), be it mine or someone else's..I was using the word antagonistic as I believed it to be a term that would not offend...If it offended you Scrivet , I am truly sorry...But understand they are people out there who would respond to a post not to offer advice but just to feed into a subject they interpret to somehow apply to them and try to intimidate, without even being involved in the post to begin with...Actually this didn't happen until your reply so again if it offended you I certainly have to beg your pardon....I have noticed recently members sometimes get yakking at each other, and trying to aggravate and was trying to avoid that... :mrgreen:.....Being a red neck, I can think of a lot of words harsher than Antagonistic, that kinda mean the same thing but are a little more, Ummmm, crude ...Perhaps I should look up Antagonistic...Again sorry for your intpertation or my misinterpretation of the statement....Dave
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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby Waif » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:05 pm

I'd ask whoever is replacing the tubes if they can do it with the tractor at their worksite ,or at my place.
If doing it myself it would be one at a time off tractor. Lots of cribbing to do both off at once. Or multiple hoists.

When my rear tires and tubes were replaced I drove it to a friends who does heavy equipment tires.
He removed one at a time. ( One on tractor at all times) Just a floorjack then blocks before pulling a wheel tire combo..
Watching him cured any reluctance of not doing it myself.
Them beads were a pain to break and tubes need to be tended carefully . ( I violated the last tube I replaced).
Blue line / color band has a purpose in aligning the tube.
A steel valve cap attached to a steel cable piece fed through valve hole in wheel can help keep track of the valve stem ,should it want to play peek a boo.

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Re: Rear Tire Removal

Postby Barnyard » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:42 pm

At this point it looks like the original question has been answered. Anything further just starts to drift somewhat off topic. I am locking this post before it gets out of hand.

If gjpgonzo feels he needs more info I will unlock it for comments.
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