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Front Tire Size Increase

Postby LeoM » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:06 am

I am planning to install a IH 1000 Loader on my 1966 Cub. Due to additional weight I have located a set of CUB CADET 23 X 8.50 X 12 rear wheels. From the research I did there several widths available. My concern is the 8.50 width may be too wide. I would appreciate hearing from anyone with experience in increasing to 8.50 or any other size.

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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby LeoM » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:07 am

I failed to mention these are for the front wheels on my Cub.

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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby Eugene » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:10 am

You need to measure the rim off set to determine if they will work on your Cub.
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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby ntrenn » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:18 pm

So.....our bolt pattern is the same as many trailers as well as ford ranger...you shold have quite a few options for a higher capacity tire. I hate using the trailer tires....but they do in a pinch...

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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby inairam » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:32 pm

This what I run 23 X 8.50 X 12 on my '48 with and IH 1000. They make a big improvement over the standard tire in terms of maneuverability with the loader

5 holes on 4.5" centers for the rims.

I also reinforced the front end. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=94076&hilit=axle

I have double wheel weights on the rear tires. Singles were not enough. I would spin with anything in the bucket

Remember with the IH1000 is a wheel barrel with hydraulics. Do not think you can left everything. It is not a big backhoe. Used it carefully and with some forethought and you will be happy with it.
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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby Steve Butram » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:56 am

I had a 1000 loader on on of my cubs it worked fine when I had a load in the bucket.

Wider tread width will make turning more difficult when you have a load in the bucket
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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby inairam » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:09 am

I thought that as well but I run on a lot of soft ground ( flood plain) with a lot of holes and ruts. The narrow tires kept getting trapped and I could not turn with a load. With the soils I run on I do not find it significantly more difficult to turn under normal driving and the back for forth loader type driving. Over all I found the wider tire make it easier for my conditions.
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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby BSR » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:47 am

I have standard front tires on mine,works well, just wish it had power steering!
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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:13 pm

inairam wrote:I thought that as well but I run on a lot of soft ground . . .

This is a key point. It is totally dependent on what kind of surface you are usually on. Softer ground works better if you aren't cutting in. On a hard surface, wider tires just make it harder to turn.

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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby LeoM » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:42 pm

Thanks All

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Re: Front Tire Size Increase

Postby Crimson Tim » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:10 pm

Leo lives not far from me. I'm not sure specifically what he plans to do with his loader, but pretty much all the so-called "ground" around here is sand. It can be fairly firm if the sod is intact and damp, but it does not take much to tear up the grass, especially if it gets dry. Then you're basically in a sand dune.
I hope to have to address this question before long myself, so I am eager to hear if there is a consensus recommendation for such conditions.


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