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draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Barnaby » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:51 pm

What are the capacities for towing a trailer for a hay ride? Any info would be appreciated. :tractor: :help:

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Barnyard » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:07 pm

A Cub could pull it, but stopping it would be your nightmare.
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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Glen » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:19 pm

Hi,
The Cub owner's manual doesn't have any info for drawbar weight, that I have seen, but there is some info for a Fast Hitch, in the 1965 Cub owner's manual. There is a chart on the lower right of the page.
Maybe this will help. :)

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Barnaby » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:43 am

thanks

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Stanton » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:09 am

Saying this and not knowing your experience level, so please don't take it as an insult. But please use extreme caution when pulling a hay wagon. The Cub tractor's braking system is designed to stop it (sometimes) and not it AND a very heavy wagon. Any decline in your terrain or roadway in which you need to make a sudden stop will be difficult at best and tragic at worse.
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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Eugene » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:23 am

Barnyard wrote:A Cub could pull it, but stopping it would be your nightmare.
Cub can easily tow 2000 lbs. or more. Brakes on a standard Cub are marginal at best. Any slope over a moderate incline, stopping the tractor is a problem, specially with a load pushing down hill on the tractor. Next issue is traction when pulling a load up an incline.

Two wheeled trailer, most of the trailer and cargo weight is carried on the trailer axle. Tongue weight will be minimal. 4 wheeled hay wagon, tongue weight is about the same as when unhitched.

Level ground or nearly level, slow tractor, you will should be ok for a hay ride. Check with your insurance agent to determine you liability, incase something goes wrong.

Suggest loading up the trailer with weight approximating the number of people for the hay ride. Give it a try on the hay ride route. You don't want to be surprised and definitely do not want to endanger folks.

This is from my lessons learned file, living in the Ozarks, steep inclines.
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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby ricky racer » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:14 am

Barnyard wrote:A Cub could pull it, but stopping it would be your nightmare.


Especially if you had to stop on an up hill. My Cub has great brakes (for a Cub) going forward but almost nonexistent going backwards. Be careful and do some math in your head before pulling a wagon for a hayride. If the wagon weighs around 1500 lbs. and your average person weighs around 170, 3 people would put you over 2000 lbs. The weight of people adds up quickly and it's hard to tell folks no when the wagon doesn't look full.
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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:49 pm

Don't forget that 10 adults will approximately equal the weight of your cub.
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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Barnaby » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:46 pm

I will stick to level ground. i did it last year with 12 people down the main road with slight decline. I felt nervous doing it. That must be a sign! Thanks for all the advice. Its going to be a good labor day hay ride.

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby ntrenn » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:12 pm

Our cub was overflow for dad's hayrides. Drove over 10 of them over very hilly roads with up to 20 people on the wagon....the cub is up to the task with some simple rules....
Control your speed with the throttle.
Go down hills in the same gear or one gear lower that you could go up the same hill.
Pick your uphill gear before the hill....
Make sure your brakes are evenly adjusted.
Use brakes as a last resort.

Did this stuff at night in some really cold weather....never lost anybody....

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby jsfarmall » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:46 pm

Lol that you know of? Sorry couldn't help myself

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby tnestell » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:10 pm

Barnyard wrote:A Cub could pull it, but stopping it would be your nightmare.

Now I know what you are telling us, and I am about your age and I agree with what you are saying. How did the mules pulling the wagon when I was young stop it?

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby ntrenn » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:18 pm

jsfarmall wrote:Lol that you know of? Sorry couldn't help myself

Come to think of it....the last hills did pull a lot easier....

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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:55 pm

tnestell wrote:
Barnyard wrote:A Cub could pull it, but stopping it would be your nightmare.

Now I know what you are telling us, and I am about your age and I agree with what you are saying. How did the mules pulling the wagon when I was young stop it?
2 mules frequently outweigh a bare cub, plus all the horse/mule drawn wagons in this part of the country had brakes.
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Re: draw bar capacites for hay ride.

Postby Eugene » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:19 pm

"Barnabys 49 Cub probably still has the single band brakes. Later Cubs had a cam type action brake bands which improved braking.

Also, what some folks call a hill wouldn't amount to a slight rise in elevation in other areas.
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