One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Farmall Cub Forum -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.

Moderator: Team Cub

Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
inairam
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 922
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 with international 1000 loader
1949 with kub klipper belly mower.
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower
1975 with homemade mower
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby inairam » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:22 pm

Saw this today

Innocent enough from the front. sporting a 15 hp engine on the drawbar.

It looks to me like the engine is started by pto on the Cub and I guess the operator would disengage the pto and uses the PTO pully as an idler pulley

So 24 drawbar hp Cub?
Attachments
20171010_110336.png
20171010_110341.png
20171010_110351.png
20171010_110402.png
20171010_110426.png
20171010_110452.png
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

Fordman
Posts: 49
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:52 am
Zip Code: 40071
Tractors Owned: 1952 Farmall cub
1966 Ford 3000
1975 international 140

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby Fordman » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:32 am

Wow, pretty wild idea. Looks like it been on there a while too. That's one way to do it I guess.

Smokeycub
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1027
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:47 am
Zip Code: 44266
Tractors Owned: 48 F Cub #11678
65 Cub Cadet 104
70 450C JD loader
67 Cub Cadet 107
90 B7100HST-D Kubota
72 Cub Cadet 149
54 Super C
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Ravenna, Ohio

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby Smokeycub » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:03 pm

Just a guess here, but I'm thinking his PTO quit working - maybe.
Ray
Smokeycub
Attachments - 193 plow - 144 cultivator - 22 mower - 28A disc harrow - 54 leveling blade - Woods 59C2 - drag harrows - Mott D9 flail - flat belt pulley
Image
The squeaky wheel may get the grease but it's usually the first to be replaced!

inairam
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 922
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 with international 1000 loader
1949 with kub klipper belly mower.
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower
1975 with homemade mower
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby inairam » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:41 pm

I thought that but there are 2 things:

1) I did not see a place for a hand crank on the back, there is no starter that I saw, so how to start it if not with the PTO.
2) The work is nicely done. It would have been easier to fix the PTO than to do what was done here.

This owner was looking for HP upgrade on the mower deck.

I have thought of doing something like that add a pony engine run the mower deck with hydraulics like commercial mowers do.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

jsfarmall
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 448
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:04 pm
Zip Code: 72454

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby jsfarmall » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:34 pm

If can match rpms that would be pretty powerful if pto was engaged with the "pony" motor running.

User avatar
LRiddle
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 487
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:57 am
Zip Code: 44278
Tractors Owned: .
1951 Farmall Cub - Chesty

Woods 59 belly mower

54A blade

1956 Gravely L

Dozer blade

Tiller

Rotary Plow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Tallmadge, OH

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby LRiddle » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:14 pm

jsfarmall wrote:If can match rpms that would be pretty powerful if pto was engaged with the "pony" motor running.


I think the point would be to keep the two motors seperate and have the Cub motor only worry about moving the tractor and let the pony motor handle spinnging the mower. At least I think that would be the easiest to engineer.
Luke Riddle
Tallmadge, Ohio
1951 Cub - Chesty



"You can't believe everything you read on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln


Circle of Safety

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 13758
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:38 am

If that engine is driving the PTO and the PTO is engaged, the clutch won't do you much good.

Waif
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 522
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:29 pm
Zip Code: 49343
Tractors Owned: 48 Farmall Cub "Seen Yore Dobbin"
53 F-Cub W/Loader.
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Michigan

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby Waif » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:37 am

Interesting.
IF auxiliary motor is started from tractor battery ,and is run independent of tractor engine ,then it simply replaces the tractors transmission/ p.t.o. shaft drive and powers the mower alone.
Synchronising torque between an auxiliary motor attached to a shaft driven by another( the tractor in this case) would be a feat. Rotation direction too...

inairam
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 922
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 with international 1000 loader
1949 with kub klipper belly mower.
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower
1975 with homemade mower
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby inairam » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:04 pm

Ponytail Steve on this facebook site https://www.facebook.com/groups/farmallcubs.partsinny/ did a similar thing.

This engine the output shaft is on the bottom making for a cleaner simpler install and a straight path for the belt to the mower
Attachments
ong engin.jpg
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

User avatar
Lt.Mike
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1159
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's
Location: Farmingdale NJ

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:56 am

LRiddle wrote:
jsfarmall wrote:If can match rpms that would be pretty powerful if pto was engaged with the "pony" motor running.


I think the point would be to keep the two motors seperate and have the Cub motor only worry about moving the tractor and let the pony motor handle spinnging the mower. At least I think that would be the easiest to engineer.

Now that’s an idea!
It would keep the blades running at full rpms allowing you to slow the forward speed through the heavy stuff without slowing the blades.
If it bogs, it’s not the Cub engine suffering.
That’s really what you’d want.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"

User avatar
LRiddle
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 487
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:57 am
Zip Code: 44278
Tractors Owned: .
1951 Farmall Cub - Chesty

Woods 59 belly mower

54A blade

1956 Gravely L

Dozer blade

Tiller

Rotary Plow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Tallmadge, OH

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby LRiddle » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:03 am

The biggest problem I see is stopping the mower to get on and off the tractor. You'd have to have a kill switch by the seat to shut the pony motor off, but then that requires restarting everytime you stop to pick up a stick. It would be a good idea if you could work around the safety aspect.
Luke Riddle
Tallmadge, Ohio
1951 Cub - Chesty



"You can't believe everything you read on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln


Circle of Safety

User avatar
ShawnAgne
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 480
Joined: Sat May 07, 2016 5:13 pm
Zip Code: 45380
Tractors Owned: 1952 Cub w/ 184 motor (Kid)
12V with Petronix
IH 3160 Mower Deck
54 Leveling Blade
193 Plow
IH528 Trailer
Farmall 300 (Clarence)
12V with Petronix
Woods L306 72"
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Versailles, Ohio

Re: One way to get a Cub to cut in high grass get a 24 HP cub

Postby ShawnAgne » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:19 am

If you look left of the seat it looks like there are some controls there. That is the one thing I have learned to like about mowing with the 300 is I can pull the T/A lever and slow it down and still have it running fast.
Shawn Agne


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests