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Must have been something in the water

Postby rockfarmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:30 pm

Tim and I must have drank from the same well this past weekend....

Hauled some equipment to GA and had an empty trailer coming home....can't haul an empty trailer, doesn't make good economic sense, right? Reduced gas mileage, wear and tear, etc. and nothing to show for it?

So I took a peek and found a 2 for 1 deal right on the way home. A '50 with cultivators and '48 parts tractor.

Turns out, the '50 is a '48 with serial number plate 50807 and engine serial number 50803. Is it normal for these numbers to be so close?


The real '50, I suspect, is still in a sweet gum sapling/brier patch. The plans are to go back in Dec/Jan when the copperheads are sleeping, and see if there is a '50 hiding in there.


48 arriving in TX.jpg


The '48 has 2 spring cultivators in front and behind the rear tires. The inside are scraper type blades. PO says he plowed peas with it.


#3 and #4 Hood.jpg


Grabbed the hood from the "project tractor" as it was easy to get to.

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Re: Must have been something in the water

Postby zburton » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:36 pm

It looks like you found a nice set up and does not look like its in bad shape at all.

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Re: Must have been something in the water

Postby Glen » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:57 pm

Hi,
The first Cubs had tractor and engine serial numbers that were the same, or near the same, according to Raymond Durban's Database.
You can look at it below, it is the one at Cub Database.
It probably works better on a computer, so you can see it better, and it can be enlarged at the top of the page after it loads in.

It's not showing that the numbers were that close by when yours was made though.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=87029

Look closely at the hoods, if they are for the short or long sided dashes, they have to match the dash to fasten on correctly. :)

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Re: Must have been something in the water

Postby Rick Spivey » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:02 am

It would be highly suspect, in my opinion, for the engine number to be LOWER than the tractor number. They used the engines in other applications, so usually the engine number is HIGHER. Seems kind of "funny" that the replacement engine was so close in number, but often, groups of tractors were likely shipped to the same area, so maybe not that unusual after all.
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Re: Must have been something in the water

Postby rockfarmer » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 pm

Rick Spivey wrote:It would be highly suspect, in my opinion, for the engine number to be LOWER than the tractor number. They used the engines in other applications, so usually the engine number is HIGHER.


That's what I was thinking. The further you get away from #501 the greater the difference in plate and engine serial numbers.

This is what I've got.
48 serial plate.jpg


48 Serial #.jpg

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Re: Must have been something in the water

Postby RaymondDurban » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:28 pm

Looking at the database, these numbers fall into a weird time in the production of Cubs. During this period, the Engine SN's and Chassis SN's are relatively close (a couple hundred numbers). Yes, typically the engine SN's are higher than the Chassis SN's, but with the rate these tractors were being pushed out during the late 40's, its anybodies guess as to how things literally stacked up on the assembly line.

Without additional data of the preceding tractors and succeeding tractors, I can't give you a better idea as to if this is the original engine, or the bolster has been replaced, or if this is the original off the line parts. I'd say it could be any of those possibilities.


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