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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby txcublover » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:04 pm

Here are four pictures of the farmall cub I picked up tonight. Runs great, but no screws holding on the hood (thus the bungee strap) and it has a 12V battery in it as discussed above. One thing I don't know is what the heck is on the back of this thing...

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby Glen » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:48 pm

Hi,
The Cub looks good in the pics.
The round bar across the rear is the lift for cultivators.
Below are pics from TM Tractor of it with part of the cultivator, the cultivator has no tools on the beams in their pics. The bar is on the tractor in the lower pics on the page.

http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim ... ng_001.htm

The Cub has the Universal Mounting frame on the left and right sides, that is for cultivators also. They are for row crops.

Here are pics from TM Tractor of one type of cultivator, there were different shovels available.

http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim ... s1_001.htm

The Cub looks like it is missing the choke rod, it goes on the left side of the dash, the loop at the top end matches the loop for the starter rod. The rod goes down to the carburetor, behind it on the engine side of it, and connects to a lever on the choke shaft. Then you can use the choke from the seat.

Below are pics of the choke rod in place, and the lower pic from TM Tractor shows the engine side of the carb with the lever for the rod. The lever usually has to be in that position with the choke fully open so the rod fits right.

Below is a listing at TM Tractor for a new choke rod, if you want to see it. :)

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/934fp.htm
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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:36 pm

Glen wrote:. . . I don't know what the thing under the platform is. . . .

Part of a Cub-152 disk plow (the drawbar is part of the plow too).

http://farmallcub.info/pubs/implement/Cub-152%20Disc%20Plow%201950/Page%2002.jpg

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby txcublover » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:51 pm

Great information, thanks to both of you. I just realized this cub has hydraulics (like I said, I'm new to these things). I did notice that the choke rod was missing, thanks for the link to a replacement. I also appreciate the pictures of the carb. Too bad no accessories came with it, but for less than $500, a running cub with no accessories is still a good deal as best I can tell. I will spend the next couple of weeks going through the list of things to do when one brings a cub home for the first time, I know it needs new front tires, I have to figure out the charging system, and I need to get the gas tank cleaned out (a fair amount of rust inside).

Thanks again!

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby Glen » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:48 am

Hi,
Thanks Jim, I don't have one of those.

It tells about the Touch Control in the owner's manual that I posted on page 1 of this post, and tells how to change the fluid, and remove the air from the system. Check the fluid with the arms in the rear or down position. It should be filled to the filler plug hole on the left side of the unit. The arms move only with the engine running. :)

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby ShawnAgne » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:58 am

Have fun with it, still remember how excited I was when I got my Cub. $500 is a great price for a running cub. Your rear tires look like they are in good shape. If you are just wanting to replace the fronts to have nicer looking tires get the Miller tire paint, I used that to freshen up my tires and it works really nice. Will fill in small cracks if you use multiple coats.
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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby Willy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:59 am

The attachments are pretty much what mine is down to now after I took the cultivators off. On the rear at top is the lift cross bar for the cultivator arms. Below that is the standard draw bar. I had to take the cultivator arms off the rear so I could get my draw bar mounted. I'm missing the bolts and nuts for the drawbar adjustment, so it's off to the hardware store this morning. The arms sticking out from the sides in the middle are for hanging the front cultivators on.

I'm looking at the rear cross bar as a possible starting point for building a 3 point hitch for mine as I doubt it will ever plow a row while I own it.
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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby txcublover » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:14 am

Managed to steal 5 minutes to test some things this morning before I left for work -- the PTO and hydraulics work. Now I just need to take care of the rust in the tank, figuring out the electronics, and do the 'when you first bring it home' list of maintenance items before it runs anymore. I did also get a box with what appears to be both headlights, the pulley that attaches to the PTO (just the wheel, not the 90 degree turn PTO option for running unattached equipment), and misc. bolts and screws.

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby Willy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:57 am

You might want to check the wiring too. Mine was supposedly restored about 15 years ago. The wiring is a disaster waiting to happen. I'm gathering up what I need to make a new wiring harness now.
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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby txcublover » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:33 pm

Can't one purchase a wiring harness? I like to do things myself, but that seems like it would be tedious to do a wiring harness well and make it look nice.

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:20 pm

txcublover wrote:Can't one purchase a wiring harness? I like to do things myself, but that seems like it would be tedious to do a wiring harness well and make it look nice.

You can buy one for $50 or so (HamiltonBob's for one place). Unless you want to do the whole thing with one wire color (bad idea!), you will need several spools of wire, connectors, and something to bundle it together. I don't consider do-it-yourself to be worthwhile for a harness.

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:16 pm

There have been some posts here about Brillman's making a harness to fit any modifications that you may have (alternator, external coil, etc.) Try the search feature and you'll probably get several posts on this subject.

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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby ShawnAgne » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:41 pm

When I converted the Cub I kept the 2GA batter cable going to the starter, but I ran new wires for everywhere else. It wasn't that hard, 10' of 10GA and 10' of 14 GA covered it and I had some left. Ace has different colors although I just used Red. As far as bundling it together, electrical tap in crucial areas works just fine.
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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby LRiddle » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:04 am

As far as the charging system is concerned, if you are doing a complete rebuild you might as well go with 12v IMHO. By the time you replace the regulator and rebuild/replace the generator you'd spend more money than going to 12v. I kept mine 6v simply because it is working good how it is and I like the pseudo-originality. But if the generator ever goes out on me I'm going right to 12v. I do have electronic ignition and a 40,000 volt coil in mine though, so perhaps I've already spent more money on it than it's worth, but those were just for fun and not out of necessity.
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Re: New (to me) 1951 Cub

Postby Willy » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:17 am

Jim Becker wrote:
txcublover wrote:Can't one purchase a wiring harness? I like to do things myself, but that seems like it would be tedious to do a wiring harness well and make it look nice.

You can buy one for $50 or so (HamiltonBob's for one place). Unless you want to do the whole thing with one wire color (bad idea!), you will need several spools of wire, connectors, and something to bundle it together. I don't consider do-it-yourself to be worthwhile for a harness.


I've never had a problem with re-wiring the simple stuff like old British bikes, old Jeeps and now the Cub of course. There's really not much wiring to do on the Cub. Besides, I'm retired and have plenty of time and never enough funding. The money spent on a new wiring harness could go to something else on the Cub that I don't have the resources to cover.

I wouldn't want to tackle wiring the wife's 2014 minivan though.
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Nah, it's not leaking oil. It's just marking it's territory.


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