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Need some Cub Experts . This one MIGHT stump you.

Postby Jake12345 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:35 pm

Need some help I have a 1957 farmall cub high boy I took the wheel of the hub but can't get the hub off seems yo be a threaded hub cap how would I get this off??

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Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Jake12345 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:37 pm

Need some help here i took the rear wheel off the hub but seem to cant get the hub off the axle it looks like a threaded hub cap but can't seem to get it off any help would be appreciated

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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Stanton » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:47 pm

Don't believe any of the wheel centers were threaded onto the axle. Has rust stuck it to the axle?

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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Larry in WNY » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:48 pm

Front wheels have threaded caps. Turn counter clockwise to remove. Back wheels do not. The center may be rusted to the axle. Spray it with penetrating oil, use a wood block with a small sledge hammer to tap it. If that doesn't work you may need to heat it with a torch.
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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Jake12345 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:53 pm

Ok thanks ill give it a try my only other option is to go back to the retainer case and take the nut off going to replace bearings and seals

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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Glen » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:36 pm

Hi,
I think you are working on the rear wheel, and the final drive unit. It sounds like you want to replace the oil seal held on with 4 bolts, behind the wheel.
The lower axle shaft, with the hub, has to be driven out of the final drive unit, the hub does not come off the axle shaft.
The Cub service manual says use a press to remove the shaft, it is tight fitting in the bearings. That means you need to remove the final drive, and take it to a press. Some of the guys on here have said they removed it hammering it out, you have to be very careful of the threads on the end of the shaft.
There is a nut on the inner side of both final drives, holding the shaft in place. The right side originally has a seed plate drive, which is exposed, with an oil seal, the nut is exposed, the left side originally has a cap, and the nut is under the cap.
Below is a page from the Cub service manual showing the parts.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/gss- ... 007-07.jpg

Below is the Cub service manual, the final drives are in section 7, I would read the section, it has lots of info.

http://www.farmallcub.info/galleries/ci ... actors.asp

Below is a post made my Dale Finch showing removing a final drive, it is in 2 parts.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78421

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78427

The upper oil seals in the final drive need replacing if you remove the final drive, they can be leaking if they are the originals, and the brakes might need replacing, and the oil cleaned off everything in the area.
There should be no oil in the area where the brake is.
TM Tractor at the bottom of the page has new brake bands with lining, seals, and other parts.

Below are pics from TM Tractor of the right rear axle, left rear axle, and final drive casting showing the oil seal in the casting, and the brake that a 1957 Cub would originally have. Good luck. :)
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Re: Need some Cub Experts . This one MIGHT stump you.

Postby Jim in SC » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:07 pm

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Re: Need some Cub Experts . This one MIGHT stump you.

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:26 pm

Jake12345 wrote:Need some help I have a 1957 farmall cub high boy I took the wheel of the hub but can't get the hub off seems yo be a threaded hub cap how would I get this off??
Which wheel are you talking about? If you are referring to a front wheel, behind the screw on cap is a castle nut with a cotter key in it. Frequently the nut and cotter key are buried in grease.
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Re: Need some Cub Experts . This one MIGHT stump you.

Postby radioguy41 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:59 pm

Same question is being asked in 2 threads. Might be better to keep it all together.

http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=98736
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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Glen » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:24 am

Hi,
He said rear wheel in the 2nd post, which was the 1st post, I think, when I wrote above.

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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Jake12345 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:03 am

Thanks guys gonna take the retainer nut off today and just pull it out.

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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:25 am

The outer bearing is pressed on. If you remove the 4 bolts holding the seal retainer (behind the outer hub) the axle will just slide out, but then the bearing has to be pressed off to change the seal.
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Re: Farmall cub 1957 high boy

Postby Dale Finch » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:15 am

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:The outer bearing is pressed on..... the axle will just slide out.....

Well...it really won't just slide out, because, like the outer bearing, the inner bearing is also "pressed" on, or at least "pushed" on when tightening the axle nut. This is where folks say either press it off with a hydraulic press if the final is off the tractor, or some folks have had success in using a block of wood and a BFH to drive the axle out of the final if it is still on the tractor.


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