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Breaking a rear tire
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Breaking a rear tire
I have a rear tire on my cub that wont stay up. tires have plenty of tread but they are old and checked. I am thinking that if i put tubes in them I can get a few more years out of them. I only mow my lawn so no heavy duty work. I have broken down car and trailer tires before. Anybody done one of these cub tires? I've never done anything this big. Is it doable or should i take it to a shop?
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Hi,
The Cub tires originally came with tubes in them, so it probably has tubes, unless they have been changed to something else.
It's easier to take it to a tire shop, my opinion.
If you have wheel weights, if you take the 4 bolts out that hold the rim to the wheel disc, you can leave the wheel disc and weight where they are.
You might try replacing the valve core before taking it off for repair. The valve cores have rubber parts on them that have to seal, they get old and hard over the years, and can leak.
They sell them at NAPA and other auto parts stores. They screw into the valve. You need a special tool to change them. There are metal valve caps with the tool built on them. You can buy that at NAPA also.
You might be able to see if it is leaking by putting some water mixed with dish washing soap on the valve core, and valve stem, it should make bubbles if there is enough air leaking.
If you replace the valve core, pump up the tire again, and check it with a tire gauge, then let it set, and check it in a day, or over several days, and see if it is holding air, or still leaking. If it still leaks, then there is another replaceable part there.
The valve stem is replaceable too. There is a collar there on the original tubes that screws off, then the stem pulls out. It has a rubber seal that could leak.
The collar is the size of the stem, and not noticeable much, it is not the round nut down at the base of the valve.
NAPA might have the new stems, or else a tire store that works on tractor tires. Be sure to get the right stem, they changed to a different style later.
Those things are easier than replacing the tube, the tube might still be good, if it has a tube.
If it still leaks, then try replacing the tube.
The Cub tires originally came with tubes in them, so it probably has tubes, unless they have been changed to something else.
It's easier to take it to a tire shop, my opinion.
If you have wheel weights, if you take the 4 bolts out that hold the rim to the wheel disc, you can leave the wheel disc and weight where they are.
You might try replacing the valve core before taking it off for repair. The valve cores have rubber parts on them that have to seal, they get old and hard over the years, and can leak.
They sell them at NAPA and other auto parts stores. They screw into the valve. You need a special tool to change them. There are metal valve caps with the tool built on them. You can buy that at NAPA also.
You might be able to see if it is leaking by putting some water mixed with dish washing soap on the valve core, and valve stem, it should make bubbles if there is enough air leaking.
If you replace the valve core, pump up the tire again, and check it with a tire gauge, then let it set, and check it in a day, or over several days, and see if it is holding air, or still leaking. If it still leaks, then there is another replaceable part there.
The valve stem is replaceable too. There is a collar there on the original tubes that screws off, then the stem pulls out. It has a rubber seal that could leak.
The collar is the size of the stem, and not noticeable much, it is not the round nut down at the base of the valve.
NAPA might have the new stems, or else a tire store that works on tractor tires. Be sure to get the right stem, they changed to a different style later.
Those things are easier than replacing the tube, the tube might still be good, if it has a tube.
If it still leaks, then try replacing the tube.
Last edited by Glen on Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:10 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
I'd HIGHLY recommend taking it to a tire place. When I redid my Cub a couple of years ago the tires were like the ones you describe. I pulled the wheels off and removed the tires myself. Well, it was a job. I ended up using a sawzall, cutting the bead on the old Firestone tires - and the bead included a steel wire cord. Not a fun job. Oh, they also were filled with calcium chloride - I had to drain that off first...
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Valve core, common leak area. Check for valve core leak by inflating the tire, spit on finger, place spit over top of valve core.
Breaking down a rear tractor tire from the rim, if you know what your are doing, is not difficult. Do it yourself and save a bunch of money.
If the tube leaks, check the inside of the tire for protrusions such as nails or thorns.
Breaking down a rear tractor tire from the rim, if you know what your are doing, is not difficult. Do it yourself and save a bunch of money.
If the tube leaks, check the inside of the tire for protrusions such as nails or thorns.
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Yep, I had to use a sawzall on the fronts of my C...I can imagine a rear would be a real dog
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Nope, nope, and nope. Rear tractor tires are actually easier to break down and service than small front tires. Front tractor tire are fairly easy to break down, if you know how.
Use to co-own a service station which specialized in farm tractor tire service. You could use the search function. I have explained the How To several times - - - - Not going to explain again.
Use to co-own a service station which specialized in farm tractor tire service. You could use the search function. I have explained the How To several times - - - - Not going to explain again.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Mix up some soapy water and dump/spray some on and around the valve stem. If the leak is anywhere in the valve/core/stem assembly, bubbles should pinpoint it.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Eugene wrote:Valve core, common leak area. Check for valve core leak by inflating the tire, spit on finger, place spit over top of valve core.
Breaking down a rear tractor tire from the rim, if you know what your are doing, is not difficult. Do it yourself and save a bunch of money.
If the tube leaks, check the inside of the tire for protrusions such as nails or thorns.
Well, I never said I knew what I was doing. I did, however, find out what I didn't know how to do. It's always good to know one's limitations and to stay within them.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
TAKE THE TIRE TO A SHOP!! My local shop charges $15 to change out a tractor tire and if you ever see someone with a tire that's been on for several years you'll think it's a great bargain. It's not like your boat trailer or ATV tire. It's heavy, stiff, and probably has some amount of rust holding it on.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Thanks for all the feed back everybody. I had it in my head that these were tubeless so assumed I'd have to break it down to put a tube in. It probably has a tube in it. I'll check out the valve and stem first. I've manually broken down tires before. I agree that smaller diameter tires are harder in general but if it comes to it. I'll try to break it myself. I'll check out your previous post Eugene. I've heard the same from others regarding tractor tires. Just never done it before. The rims are in very good shape so I'm hoping rust won't be a big problem. No fluid in them either.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Yeah tubes are a good way to go. Buy ya lot more time. I would take em to a shop. Maybe 10 dollars. A tire for them to put tubes in. Not counting cost of the tube obviously.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
You can do the rear tires yourself not hard just a pita to do the local tire place wanted $80plus to remove the tire and the another $80 to mount per tire so I had to learn the hard way on how to break them down should be a tutorial somewhere on the forum if not pm and I can explain the process better
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Steinertractor.com has "Steiner Videos". Look under "Wrenching with Rachael" one of hers is a video on changing a rear rim. You might want to give that a look.
Published on May 15, 2015
BROWSING: Wrenching with Rachel
Length: 00:20:40
This video goes over how to remove a tire and tube from a rim for replacement on your antique tractor. This how to video shows how to do this with simple repair shop tools that most will have available.
Published on May 15, 2015
BROWSING: Wrenching with Rachel
Length: 00:20:40
This video goes over how to remove a tire and tube from a rim for replacement on your antique tractor. This how to video shows how to do this with simple repair shop tools that most will have available.
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Well I did the soapy water test and I have a obvious leak at the valve stem. So I will try replacing the stem and hopefully that will cure it. I hope so. I checked out the video DRaymond. Thanks for the tip. If it turns out the tube is bad, I think I can replace it myself. Hay if Rachel can do it there's a 50% chance I can. He He
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Re: Breaking a rear tire
Hi,
Pics of the tire, wheel, and valve would be helpful, so we could see what type you have.
Pics of the tire, wheel, and valve would be helpful, so we could see what type you have.
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