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Trying to fit steering arms

Postby rjd » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:51 am

I hope I've not missed this information n my search.
I'm trying to fit the steering arms back on the spindles of my 47.
Problem is the holes in the spindles have been drilled out that large the tapered lock screw will go straight through.
Given shipping cost to Aus I'd rather try fixing the ones I have first.
So my question is what size should the hole be?
Is straight or tapered?
Any thing else I should know about?
Thanks Richard.

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Re: Trying to fit steering arms

Postby Glen » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:57 am

Hi,
Too bad you are having trouble with that.

The spindle shafts have to have tapered holes for the lock bolts to tighten into.
The holes go all the way through the shafts. One end of the hole has a taper, and the other end does not have a taper. Are you sure you have looked at both ends of the holes.

Below are pics from TM Tractor of one arm, and a pic of the upper part of the shaft, showing the tapered hole. I don't know the size. :)

http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gst ... lb_001.htm
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Re: Trying to fit steering arms

Postby Eugene » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:53 am

Glen has you covered on how the steering arms are supposed to fit together.

Not recommended, folks have welded the arm to the spindle.

http://gardentractorpullingtips.com/steering.htm

Down quite a bit in the above link, How to fix drag link looseness. I've used this method on my narrow framed Cub Cadets and it works pretty well. Not sure if it will work on a Cub tractor.
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Re: Trying to fit steering arms

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:59 pm

Here are a couple suggestions. I have never tried either, don't know if either one is a good idea.
1) The spindles are identical but the arms are left and right. Maybe you can swap the arms from side to side and redrill the spindles for the repositioned setscrews. The new holes need to be tapered to fit the points on the setscrews.
2) Get a pair of the newer style steering arms and have keyways cut into your spindles. I assume shipping would cost a lot less for 2 arms than 2 spindles.

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Re: Trying to fit steering arms

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:13 pm

Jim Becker wrote:Here are a couple suggestions. I have never tried either, don't know if either one is a good idea.
1) The spindles are identical but the arms are left and right. Maybe you can swap the arms from side to side and redrill the spindles for the repositioned setscrews. The new holes need to be tapered to fit the points on the setscrews.
2) Get a pair of the newer style steering arms and have key ways cut into your spindles. I assume shipping would cost a lot less for 2 arms than 2 spindles.
I believe George Willer, a deceased member switched sides and redrilled them. He made a tapered reamer to cut the holes in the spindles to the right size once the pilot hole was drilled.

I would think a decent machine shop could either fill in the holes and recut them, or drill new ones with the spindles swapped side to side as George did.
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Re: Trying to fit steering arms

Postby rjd » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:24 pm

Thanks everyone for the replies.
I don't think swapping steering arms from side to side will work as my axle is all the way in and the head of the lock screws will hit axle brackets.
I'm leaning towards filling and redrilling what I have.
How does swapping spindles help? Isn't the same side of the hole used regardless of which side of the tractor they are?

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Re: Trying to fit steering arms

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:57 pm

Swapping spindles would allow for new holes to be drilled, knuckles would stay with original side.
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Re: Trying to fit steering arms

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:00 am

The spindles are identical, not left and right (like the arms). Swapping them side to side would effectively put the oversize holes back in the same place.

John, did you type the wrong word when you said spindles?


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