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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby jsfarmall » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:28 am

MiCarl wrote:
BigBill wrote:How much is the Worksaver 3pt hitch.? Doesn’t look hard to fab one.


Best price I've found is $676 shipped.

I figure $400-$500 materials to make one.




For a cub it won't cost that much to build one. Maybe 150 tops. Remember there are no cylinders or hoses to buy like the bigger tractors. Flat bar, square tubing and couple balls for the lift arms.

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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby ajhbike » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:59 am

I agree. I do this because these projects are fun and learning. I don't care that they aren't authentic. Plenty of people here make their own stuff because not everyone has access to the historical equipment or can afford it. If I have to adjust, fix or remake something....so what? As long as I have a scrap metal pile, an angle grinder and my welder I have fun....isn't that why we are in the game!!!!
That being said, plows need some spring give or the rough ride will get alot rougher.

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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby Willy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:35 am

ajhbike wrote:I agree. I do this because these projects are fun and learning. I don't care that they aren't authentic. Plenty of people here make their own stuff because not everyone has access to the historical equipment or can afford it. If I have to adjust, fix or remake something....so what? As long as I have a scrap metal pile, an angle grinder and my welder I have fun....isn't that why we are in the game!!!!
That being said, plows need some spring give or the rough ride will get alot rougher.


That's my thinking on it as well. And it traditional for farmers to use what they have or can get cheap. I'm retired and have the nearly empty wallet to prove it. And other than plows and cultivators, Cub implements are very scarce around here. Especially ones in my price range. Most standard Cat 0 and Cat 1 3 point implements are pricey too. I looked at sleeve hitches and while interesting and less complicated than the 3 points, I was looking for something simpler and easier to make. (my welding skills are very very rusty to the point that other than tacking things in place I wouldn't put much stress on my welds)

I found a blade made for an ATV that uses a regular 2" hitch receiver and that got my brain cells to bumping together. The company that makes the blade makes a manual and hydraulic for it, but with the Cub, I already have a nice lift. So, this is what I've got going with it now.

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I can pull a utility trailer, run around with a platform rack (pictured) for when I don't want to mess with the trailer, and I'm very close to having the blade working if it will warm up a bit. It's just a regular Class III, 2" hitch receiver from Harbor Freight bolted to the drawbar. I've got the drawbar hooked to the lift using the rear cultivator pressure rods with a couple of homemade L brackets and they've lifted everything I've put on the platform rack so far. There's some play in the hitch that I've got an idea from the sleeve hitches for getting out of.

Once I get the blade sorted out, I'm thinking some kind of mowing deck and a hydraulic adjustable boom pole.
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby ajhbike » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:57 am

Not to hijack the thread, but there are lots of effective, "ugly" ideas out there...here is boom that I slapped 2 pins on and chain for the "top link" so I could move some logs around. I also use the 3 point for carryalls, rear blade, dirt bucket, gravel rake, pallet forks, etc.
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby ajhbike » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:59 am

2 point adapter for 3 point
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby MiCarl » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:31 pm

You guys seriously overestimate the tools I have and the size of my scrap pile. Not to mention available time.

For now a 193 plow will meet my wants. After we retire to the country, with well equipped pole barn, I may well fabricate something.

Willy, that connection you have from the rock shaft to the draw bar is about half a three point. I gotta keep my eye open for one. Is it for a Cub cultivator?
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby SONNY » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:45 pm

Looks like the cub cultivator rear gang lift bar and rods! thanks; sonny
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby Willy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:46 pm

For metalworking tools, I have a small angle grinder to cut and grind metal with, an old drill press whose main good point is that it works (kinda sorta) and a small fluxwire welding box that I got for Christmas and haven't tried to use yet. A lot of my time is spent figuring out how to get around tools I could use but don't have. I don't have a good vise, so a 10" c-clamp and a side rail on the utility trailer suffices. Things like that get me by.
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby Willy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:52 pm

SONNY wrote:Looks like the cub cultivator rear gang lift bar and rods! thanks; sonny


Yep, it's a Cub 144 rear lift cross bar and the lift/pressure rods. I just had to make a couple of L brackets to attach them to the drawbar. And leave out the drawbar locking bolts. if I need to lock it back in it's stock position, I use a couple of 1/2" clevis pins. i do that if I'm pulling the trailer.

It was what I had and I have no intentions of putting the cultivators back on it, so why not?. (If I do that, Mrs Willy is liable to get the idea to start a garden that she can't work and I'll have to)

My concern with the lift rods is the top collars and any weight being dependent on those set screws to hold. I'm thinking is maybe thread the top portions and put a double nut on each one.
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby ajhbike » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:58 pm

Yep, same here...harbor freight drill press, vise and stick welder for $100 each and a $20 angle grinder along with a some ryobi cordless tools. Time is short too....but none of this stuff "has to get done"....that is the beauty of it. I keep my eye out at our plant for scrap, crates. Once you have the tools and scrap the money is in grade 5 or 8 bolts, nuts, pins, cotters, chain, etc.

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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby Willy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:03 pm

The hardware can be kind of pricey. Our local hardware store sells grade 5 and grade 8 bolts and nuts by the pound. Metal to work with, there's a local fab shop that I go see what he's got in the way of scraps from other jobs and I can use. I got over 5ft of 2" square thick wall steel tubing for $15 the other day.

The only hurry I'm in is I want to have the blade on it before it snows here so I can play.
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby Willy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:16 pm

MiCarl wrote:Willy, that connection you have from the rock shaft to the draw bar is about half a three point. I gotta keep my eye open for one. Is it for a Cub cultivator?


When I was thinking of a 3 point hitch, my last rough idea on it was to drill the drawbar brackets for the lower arm pins. I was thinking the longer bot on pins for those.

For the toplink, I had in mind bolting a piece of 2" heavy angle between the battery box/platform and the axle housing with the top link brackets welded to it. Just seemed to me like the simplest way to do it and for light duty should be fine. But it's just a rough idea and when I have those, there's always some finer points that jump out along the way that have to be worked out.

I was going to attach the lift to the lower arms pretty much like I did with the drawbar.
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby ajhbike » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:59 pm

Here is what I did with scraps and it works well....mind you I wouldn't use it for plowing...I have a FH Loboy with a spring helper bar for that.
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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby ajhbike » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:57 pm

you could pin them close to the collars to hold steady and remove them when you need float

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Re: Cub 3 point hitch ??

Postby ajhbike » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:37 pm

BTW, I have changed the lift chains to adjustable lift arms using long top links. Much better side to side stability to hold down


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