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Starter switch

Postby snoman7c » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:34 am

I was wondering if anyone else out there had problems with their starter switch? I had the starter motor rebuilt last year, they told me that they put a new switch on it too. Didn't feel that it needed one! Well a year later I would have to jiggle the lever around to find a place that would make contact. Got tired of that. Went to the local dealer and WAY overpaid for a new switch :shock: Two months later, there are sparks shooting out of it and the switch is very hot! Guess I need another switch! My question is- Is there a way to convert this to a push button on the dash or something other than being right on the starter motor itself?

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Re: Starter switch

Postby Eugene » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:04 am

You could install a push button switch on the dash. Many other tractors employed the dash push button starter switch. They should be available at your local auto parts store.

Suggest removing the switch from the starter and see what is going on. Local auto parts has the starter switch. Years ago purchased one. Thinking it cost $12.??.

The starter switch case shouldn't get hot. There is suppose to be an insulation piece on each inside of the case to keep the plunger from contacting the case. Thinking the insulation piece is damaged or missing.
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Re: Starter switch

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:41 am

The pull lever starter switch can be changed for a push button or a key type switch, both were used on later model Cubs (wiring diagram is in the Manuals). There are several modifications that will have to be made. The most expensive one is the starter post contact will have to be changed to a bolt type so you can fasten the battery cable to it (the one on the starter is soldered inside the case). Search this topic and you will find several posts on how to get it done.

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Re: Starter switch

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:48 am

Another example of the fine quality of imported parts!
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Re: Starter switch

Postby snoman7c » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:19 am

EXACTLY, Scotty! The switch from the IH Dealer was $25 ! After I got home I noticed that it was made in China. Thats pathetic that an International Dealer would even stock that junk. What is even more pathetic is that an American made one might not even exist! Wish it was 1970 again!

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Re: Starter switch

Postby Barnyard » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:33 pm

ScottyD'sdad wrote:Another example of the fine quality of imported parts!

Hey Ed, I agree with you 100%, but where can we find all American made. Even our forum sponsor doesn't have a U.S. made one. http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/2543fp.htm
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Re: Starter switch

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:53 pm

Barnyard wrote:
ScottyD'sdad wrote:Another example of the fine quality of imported parts!

Hey Ed, I agree with you 100%, but where can we find all American made. Even our forum sponsor doesn't have a U.S. made one. http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/2543fp.htm

I know that! We need some QC people, willing to go over there, and check the products, prior to shipping them here!

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Re: Starter switch

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:54 pm

There are differing degrees of quality in imported parts. I have used the one TM carries with good success.
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Re: Starter switch

Postby tmays » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:52 pm

Don McCombs wrote:There are differing degrees of quality in imported parts. I have used the one TM carries with good success.


Agree
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Re: Starter switch

Postby snoman7c » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:27 pm

Just ordered another switch from TM this morning. Hopefully it will work and last a little longer than a few weeks! Thanks guys for your opinions!

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Re: Starter switch

Postby BigBill » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:17 pm

We don’t have any QC people here anymore.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Starter switch

Postby Bill Hudson » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:33 pm

Don McCombs wrote:There are differing degrees of quality in imported parts.


I know an engineer that oversaw products produced in China (often several months at a stretch in China monitoring production). I discussed product quality with him and basically, "You get the level of product quality you are willing to pay for." My translation is that companies are targeting the lowest quality that we (customers) will willingly accept at a price we are willing to pay. Having said that, I prefer American made products.

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Re: Starter switch

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:05 pm

Bill, that same theory applies to American made products, too. :(
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Re: Starter switch

Postby jsfarmall » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:34 am

snoman7c wrote:I was wondering if anyone else out there had problems with their starter switch? I had the starter motor rebuilt last year, they told me that they put a new switch on it too. Didn't feel that it needed one! Well a year later I would have to jiggle the lever around to find a place that would make contact. Got tired of that. Went to the local dealer and WAY overpaid for a new switch :shock: Two months later, there are sparks shooting out of it and the switch is very hot! Guess I need another switch! My question is- Is there a way to convert this to a push button on the dash or something other than being right on the starter motor itself?


My tractor eats em like m&Ms too. I usually bought mine from orscheln but just won't last. I found a guy on eBay that sells for 11 and some change free shipping. It was a heavier switch and been there since summer time no problems. I had exactly same issue you did. Sparks and all. Makes ya talk in a way your momma would frown on.
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Re: Starter switch

Postby CSA_CUB » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:22 am

Funny y’all should bring this topic up. I fought with mine yesterday trying to get it started to plant potatoes. :evil: I pulled both the lever and pull rod so hard I had imprints in my fingers. Figured it was the switch worn out. So off comes the start today for a check. I’ll tell y’all more tomorrow with photo I hope.
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