Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

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Shane Nelson
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Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:35 pm

I knew I was going to take the oil pan off this Cub so I made a piece with a round rod welded on the end to fit my jack so it wouldn't slip, I put a pin in the other end where the front hitch I copied from Barnyard is so I could roll it apart and roll it back together. Only thing I would do different is make a tad longer to get the jack towards the rear of the engine a little more.
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Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:08 pm

Shane, All of the engine gasket kits I've bought (mostly Victor-Reinz) had the rear seal in them which didn't fit. If they weren't thrown away, there may be several hundred of those scattered in shops across the country.
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Shane Nelson
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1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original
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Location: Oak Ridge, N.C.

Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:23 am

Bob, I know your right with that!
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1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Oak Ridge, N.C.

Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:24 am

Oil pan is burned off, wire brushed and primed.
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1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Oak Ridge, N.C.

Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:27 pm

Oil pan is back on and tractor is not in 2 halves anymore. That’s got to be easier with 2 people I would think cause 1 is tough.
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1972 Schramm Pneumatractor
1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Oak Ridge, N.C.

Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:03 am

Good news, got Walt back together and parked him outside on a small incline for about 30 minutes while running and no leaks. Will continue to run him and see what happens.
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1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
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Location: Oak Ridge, N.C.

Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:36 am

My boss sent the drawing out for a quote from 2 different water jets to see how much it will be for a blank and me adding the holes and milling the oil pan surface. I got him to get me a price on aluminum and steel just to see what the difference is. I may make another prototype out of steel for our other Cub because what I did to it I don't trust it and I want to paint them both in the next few years when our kids get big enough to help and I don't want any leaks.
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1970 International 140 (Norman)
1949 John Deere A
1972 Schramm Pneumatractor
1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Oak Ridge, N.C.

Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:30 am

UPDATE. Got a quote back from both places on water jetting a blank, was more than we expected but may be doable down the road. We have gotten so busy here it's insane which is a good thing, that's what keeps us in business. Sad to report I had to sell this tractor to buy a 140 I been trying to buy for over a year. A good friend of mine has been asking about one of our Cubs for a year and I finally caved in yesterday since the 140 deal came through. He came and drove Walt (don't think he would want to give me my money back on what I have in Arnold to just cultivate his garden) and now owns it and the prototype crankshaft seal retainer. He only lives a couple miles down the road so we will have visitation rights if we need to.

I had to edit my profile and am now no longer a member of the MCC (Multiple Cub Club).
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Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:56 am

Shane Nelson wrote:I had to edit my profile and am now no longer a member of the MCC (Multiple Cub Club).

I'll bet that won't last long. :D
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Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Stanton » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:11 am

Don McCombs wrote:
Shane Nelson wrote:I had to edit my profile and am now no longer a member of the MCC (Multiple Cub Club).

I'll bet that won't last long. :D


You know that's right.

Shane, I've enjoyed this thread and the process. Let us know by end of summer, especially if your friend uses the Cub often (i.e. mowing), if there's any sign of leakage. Summer heat combined with prolonged engine run-time should prove to be the acid test.
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1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Oak Ridge, N.C.

Re: Crankshaft Seal Retainer~~Prototype~~

Postby Shane Nelson » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:19 am

Don & Stanton, I would like to have a Lo-Boy sometime but right now it's not doable. I got blessed with the 140 and sold the Cub for enough to almost pay for it. 2 young kids and getting ready to put the truck in for surgery for a tranny rebuild and getting ready to redo a 140 my fundage is gone, lol. I may make another retainer and put it in Arnold although it may be next winter before I get around to it with the 140 project coming in. I'll start a thread on it soon. The man who bought the Cub is going to garden with it, he won't be doing any mowing with it. He bought it to replace his Allis Chalmers, not sure what model it is.
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