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Generator ID help

Postby tim52 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:03 pm

I need some help in identifying the type or model of this generator I just pulled off my '47 Cub to rebuild.

I did not see any markings to help determine the rebuild kit I would need.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Generator ID help

Postby tst » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:24 pm

no small metal tag held on with rivets?

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Re: Generator ID help

Postby tim52 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:57 pm

No tag or stampings like I see on most generators.

The fan cooling blades also look a little odd, like they have been cut.

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Re: Generator ID help

Postby Glen » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:14 am

Hi,
The generator in your pics is different than a 1947 Cub had, those gens are fully sealed, and have no fan at the front pulley. They use a Cutout, or Relay, IH called it, mounted on top of the gen. The relay is not a voltage regulator, you have to set the rate of charge manually, using the switch on the dash. It has High and Low charge positions, and controls the lights too, so it has 4 positions.
Yours might be from a car or truck, just a guess. Without an ID plate, or number stamped in the unit, it is hard to tell what it came from.

Below is a page from the 1947 Cub owner's manual showing the electrical system without the hood on.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-33.jpg

This page below tells about the switch, and has a wiring diagram.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-34.jpg

Below is the whole 1947 Cub owner's manual, if you don't have it. The experts on here recommend that everyone with a Cub read the owner's manual. It has much info about operation, maintenance, and lubrication. There is a table of contents on page 1.
It has no info about the Touch Control, the owner's manuals newer than 1947 have Touch control info, including changing the fluid, and removing the air from the system.
Nowadays the Touch Control uses Case IH Hy-Tran fluid. Case IH dealers sell it. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

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Re: Generator ID help

Postby Landreo » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:00 am

This looks like an Autolite GGW model. Not sure which one but it should be a 6 volt, 2 brush generator. If that is the style you have then the brushes etc may be the same for all the GGW generators. The fan looks either homemade or modified for some reason.

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Re: Generator ID help

Postby Landreo » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:34 am

The spacing between the insides of the mounts should be around 6 3/4 inches. If that is what your generator is then it is a GGW generator. I expect the bearings and brushes may be the same for any GGW generator.

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Re: Generator ID help

Postby Landreo » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:53 pm

A deeper dive into the Autolite GGW series and this appears to be a GGW 4801 used on Studebakers and some mid to late 1950's Jeeps so parts should be available.

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Re: Generator ID help

Postby tim52 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:32 pm

Wow, that is some super sleuthing.

Thank you Landreo for the information


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