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new old guy, maybe new project

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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:20 pm

If your Cub comes with implements that aren't mounted, it's a good idea to print off some parts pictures to make sure you get all the mounting brackets, pulleys, etc. If missing, they can be hard to find and expensive.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:24 am

Tom, Welcome to the forum and good luck Cub hunting.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby tom coffey » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:58 am

Well the weatherman was right so far. It began snowing here at 11:00 PM last night and has been snowing since, hard at times. We have about 14" now, at 10:50 AM on Sunday and it is still snowing with skies still pretty dark and no sign of letting up soon. The forecast is for possibly 18" total. I could use a Cub with a blade now. I have a walk behind snow blower but I've never used it in more than 4" of snow. :censored: :censored: :censored: :surrender:
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby Eugene » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:55 pm

tom coffey wrote:Of course I really don't know until I actually see the tractor, but here's my thoughts. See if I have stinking thinking. I figure that if I am going to restore a Cub, as opposed to buying one already restored, if I buy one that is good mechanically, (not stuck or frozen and burst) and has decent restorable sheetmetal, I will be ahead.
My opinion. Perhaps, you can easily put more money in a fixer upper tractor than a $2K tractor that someone else put a lot of time and money into.

Purchase a tractor in good field ready work condition - less expensive, frequently much less expensive, in the long and short run.

Since you are looking for a tractor to restore, research your local and determine makes and models that were readily available 50 -70 years ago. In my area, Allis Chalmers and Ford were big names. Meaning, that there are still quite a number of these tractors available for parts.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby tom coffey » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:47 pm

I have given it some prayerful thought and will probably not bother going to look at the Cub. I was in a serious car accident in July of 2017 and have been unable to work since, but not yet drawing any disability. I really cannot justify spending much more than the price of the Cub I was looking at right now. I thought maybe if I had it squirreled safely away I would be able to restore it as my budget allowed. Probably not. I'm getting too old to start new projects anyway.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:02 am

Tom, here's the link to the 2018 Cubfest schedule: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=98212#p773612 Sanford NC and Randolph VA are not too far from you. The 2019 schedule is not yet complete but you can view it on the Cubfest Announcements/Schedule page viewtopic.php?f=8&t=102673. Hope to see you at a Cubfest.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:00 am

I like the "grow as you can" project. I see a lot of guys paint a tractor one part at a time.
Perhaps find a tractor that runs good enough to meet your immediate needs and spend a little on it as you can (starting with basic maintenance)
- I am curious as to how you envision using the tractor. Sounds like snow plowing may be in its future!
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:32 am

Tom, I plan on attending DSCF (Deep South CubFest) in Sneads, FL (panhandle) in February, and am always offering a ride for anyone interested in going. It's about a 12 hour drive (I do make a few rest stops!), but well worth it. I would be driving my Ford Expedition pulling an 18' trailer with my Super A on it, so I have plenty of room for another person. In fact, if you find a tractor and want to take it down there to "play" with, I can haul both. DSCF is a great event...lots of good folks with plenty of Cub knowledge and an eagerness to share. You could get a lot of work done on a "new" toy!

Oh! Forgot to mention, I am in Chapel Hill, so you are not that far away.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby tom coffey » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:31 am

Dale, I really appreciate that. It is very nice of you.
I guess I didn't reveal my whole "plan(s)" when I first posted about the possible (then) new project. It might have made a difference in the advice I received, which I appreciate. I tried to keep my first post as short as possible. My thought was to disassemble and evaluate the parts of the tractor and restore/repaint the good keepers while replacing the bad and ugly discards. My goal would have been to salvage everything that I could have, knowing some things have to be replaced during a restoration, obviously. I can usually rebuild and repair things like starters, generators, carburators, etc, if can get the parts to do it with. I have used electrolysis to de-rust parts for years and find it does a great job. I use 5 gallon buckets or 55 gallon barrels as needed. I had already planned to figure how large a tank would need to be to get the largest part of a Cub in that I would likely want to "dip", probably the hood. You think? I would probably not ever do an engine block or transmission housing. One of the large plastic water tanks used on farms with the top cut out would probably be what I need.
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I think I will still get one for future use. I also have a sand blaster if I need it. I have welders and most of the necessary hand tools. The project might provide needed therapy but I suppose that I have enough "therapies" now to keep me busy for a long while.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:04 pm

Sounds like weeks of therapy ahead!
Seems like Cubota and Harley were good therapy sessions for their builders and owners!
Find a non-runner in a scrapyard and get it working a field again!
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby tom coffey » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:04 pm

Possible change of plans, again...After 17 months with none, I now have some income again. In July 2017 another driver crossed the center-line and hit me head on. It has taken until now for me to start to draw any disability benefits. I now will have monthly income again so I'm thinking about going to CHECK OUT the Cub as originally planned. If it is still available this Saturday I will take cash and a trailer. :tractor:
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby tom coffey » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:25 pm

So what is the biggest part of a Cub that I might want to "dip"? hood? rear rim? give me some dimensions please. Will the biggest part fit in one of the water totes with the top cut out?
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby Bob McCarty » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:59 pm

The hood and bell housing (torque tube) would be the longest. If you can't completely submerse a part, you can dip half and then dip the other half. I can get measurements tomorrow if no one else has posted by then.
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Re: new old guy, maybe new project

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:06 am

Hood is ~4'
Torque tube ~3'
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