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gear reduction

Postby sixoklok » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:21 am

Hi, there anything out there like a gear reduction unit for these farmalls? I feel like I've seen somewhere a hydraulic creeper gear, as an option?

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Re: gear reduction

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:23 pm

I think they made creepers that ran off hydraulics, but required a large hydraulic pump. The only ones that worked on the smaller tractors used a pto and the motor replaced the belt pulley. Not a very practical set up for a SA. You can get my with out a creeper drive, you will just have to make several passes. Shallow is good so that you do not kill as many earthworms.
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Re: gear reduction

Postby sixoklok » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:44 am

I agree it's not the most practical setup. I'm going to work with what I have instead, by making sure that everything can be done at 2.5 mph. Wherever the steering goes when I seed, it should be able to follow when I cultivate. I may also replace the rear tires with 8.5" instead of 12.4".

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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:14 pm

The smaller tires will help a little, but pretty expensive for the little difference. If you can, measure both of them mounted and see thedifference
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Re: gear reduction

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:07 am

I've ran across (by pictures only) 2 different gear reduction systems for a Super A-140 tractor. Unfortunately the tractors were too far for me to purchase and I didmt get them. Wish I had a handful of the units because it would make the tractor way more handy and appealing.

Jim Becker, Matthew Holder, John, or anyone that has any info on these 2 setups; please speak up.
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:42 pm

Those pictures appear to be creepers for a trencher. If so they make the tractor so slow that when engaged it is not practical for anything but a trencher. They would reduce it to a very slow walking speed when in the higher gears.
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Re: gear reduction

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:24 am

Yeah, I'm not sure what brand or use they are for; as I have never seen them in person or heard any other info about them. The ones I pictures are (2) entirely different units though. Sorry about the size of the first 3 pictures......I tried to adjust them, but it didn't work out.
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Re: gear reduction

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:57 am

The only place I have seen one like the first pictures was on a 140. There was used with a mounted grape harvester. I believe the picker was made by Lewis Manufacturing Company. I suppose it might have worked well with a transplanter. The second looks like it may have gone with an Auburn trencher. If so, it would be way too slow for many other uses, as John pointed out.

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Re: gear reduction

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:32 am

I didn't realize they made Super A-140 tractors with the Auburn trencher too. Would it work pulling a tiller ??
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Re: gear reduction

Postby gitractorman » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:48 am

Could work with a tiller, but may even be slow for that. You REALLY have to go slow when trenching!!! However, if you could find one of the gear reducers, I wonder how hard it would be to re-gear it to suit the application? It would be a fun project to figure out.
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Re: gear reduction

Postby Super A » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:07 pm

IIRC those first pics of the non-restored tractor with the extra lever beside the gearshift had the torque tube out of a 404 with creeper gear.

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Re: gear reduction

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:16 pm

Super A wrote:IIRC those first pics of the non-restored tractor with the extra lever beside the gearshift had the torque tube out of a 404 with creeper gear.

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That makes sense. The whole attachment looks like the unit from a 404 and I would expect it to mostly be a bolt-in.

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Re: gear reduction

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:57 pm

Are the 404 tractors with a creeper pretty hard to find? That would be awesome to make a 140 with a hi-lo transmission.
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