Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby Super A » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:48 pm

Don McCombs wrote:
Lt.Mike wrote:
Super A wrote:Kind of a dumb/lazy question but is the valve and hyd. line from the pump the same as a Super C with FH?

Al

Those you can find and yes they “look” like they could be the same. Im 99% sure the remote valve itself is the same. A Super A is a 113 engine while the Super C is a 123 engine. Here’s another question for the puzzle, are these two engines externally the same with the only difference being more cubic inches for the Super C?
I’ve found auxiliary setups for the C and am trying to see if if it can be used on the SA with minor tweaking.

I believe that the later SA’s were also 123’s.

The very last ones in 1954, aka the Code 2 Super A, aka the Super A-1 (A-One, not A-Eye) had the 123. Externally you will have a hard time telling a 123 and a 113 apart.

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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:14 pm

The Super C used a different block than the C, with a larger lower bore for the sleeves. With that change, the Super A started using the Super C block but with thicker walled sleeves to maintain the original displacement. The Super A1 (1954 Series II Super A) had the Super C sleeves/displacement. The C and Super C engines were governed to a higher speed than the Super A.

The 500 C tractors built with the larger bore were built in early 1950, not at the end of the model run.

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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby bvfarmall » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:55 pm

Have the lever #356804R2 and Rod #356806R2 off a SA i parted out in MN. Please e-mail for picture of parts to bvfarmall@gmail.com or call Bernie
320-324-7508

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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:46 am

bvfarmall wrote:Have the lever #356804R2 and Rod #356806R2 off a SA i parted out in MN. Please e-mail for picture of parts to bvfarmall@gmail.com or call Bernie
320-324-7508

Thanks Bernie, yes I would like to see what you have. I sent an email last night and a PM today.
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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby Super A » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:31 am

Mike if you get the lever please post a pic. Never seen one in person, but I'd like to put a remote on one of my Super As one day.

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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby Ol Timey Farming LLC » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:59 pm

Super A wrote:Mike if you get the lever please post a pic. Never seen one in person, but I'd like to put a remote on one of my Super As one day.

Al

Same, here, I could really use remotes on back of an SA-140. I have a pull type disk that I'd love to convert from manual lift to hydraulic. Could even use a wood splitter then too.

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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:48 pm

Ol Timey Farming LLC wrote:
Super A wrote:Mike if you get the lever please post a pic. Never seen one in person, but I'd like to put a remote on one of my Super As one day.

Al

Same, here, I could really use remotes on back of an SA-140. I have a pull type disk that I'd love to convert from manual lift to hydraulic. Could even use a wood splitter then too.

There’s another reason to follow through!
In the off season there’s no reason that with the quick connects I’m planning to incorporate in I can’t hook up the log splitter I have (which has a dead engine.)
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Re: Super A auxiliary hydraulic control

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:18 pm

A deal has been done an original Super A complete auxiliary hydraulic valve assembly, soup to nuts. My intent is to use this to angle the A-60 grader blade. Lucky for me to have the resources and examples to follow from some very creative and talented people here.
I’ll certainly detail what I do and share any info I have.
On a side note...
You know I have been researching this to death reading other forums . The knowledge in them just isn’t there, even basic stuff. When a tough question is raised they’d be referred to this forum . ;)
On the valve, this isn’t an easy part to find and I couldn’t find any other tractor with this working much mounted. Not one photo. All I have is the factory operators manual and parts list. Even in that the photo is an illustration.
There was only one unit for the A that I found (actually it found me) and two for the Super C, 200, (handle makes the difference), not a lot available.
If you find one grab it.
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